Why I Dislike Big Government

Discussion in 'The Political/Current Events Coffee House' started by 1Historygenius, May 7, 2012.

  1. Demondaze Xenos Scum

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    I don't particularly give a shit.
  2. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

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    So why all the pro-US rhetoric?
    All you want is revenge.
    Why the mask?
    Did they guarentee your father or you a Democracy?
    As I recall, they were shooting for a Communism.
    *Fixed.
    The door swings both ways.
    You'll find alot of people able to say this.
    Nor is calling for people to be killed.
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    Unless you endure suffering from the communist, you will never understand.
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    You say 'the communist' like it is a title owed to a single group that inheritly means pain and suffering.
    I don't recall ever seen that in the description of the ideology.
    Your family's suffering, which I respect your grief over, is the result of the actions of those who called themselves Communists.
    Communism does not specifically barr from practice the infliction of suffering on others, but neither is such a practice condoned or even within the definition.

    Basically, something terrible happened to your family at the hands of a group that associated themselves with a specific ideology and you have psychologically come to associate the infliction of said suffering with the ideology definition itself, which is blatantly incorrect.

    I use 'Communist' as a collective and rapid way to explain the major direction of my political ideologies. Are you accusing me of desiring to harm you or your family? I can absolutely assure you that I have no intentions of doing so.

    Either way, my point was never that your family did NOT suffer under the Communists, but rather that your apparent belief that Communists and Communism are the sole evil of the universe is wrong. I was pointing out that the alternatives (specifically what is seen as the ultimate polar opposite) have their tattered reputations too and for good reason, as they have earned those reputations.
    Wading into the debate over the death and suffering toll, for every time that someone challenges me with "What about the millions that died under Communism?" I shall challenge, "And how many have been enslaved, suffered, and died under Capitalism or some other ideology? Are they any better?".

    At the end of the day, I stand by my position that ideologies don't kill people; people kill people.
    Communism, Capitalism, Religion, and most of the rest don't kill people.
    It is that people do things in the name of the ideology they follow, right and aligned with their ideology or not, and it is attributed to that ideology.
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    You have my support against any communist my friend
  6. 3man75 Well-Known Member

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    very sorry...stalin
    It is a personnel thing, that you will never understand and trust me the people who i hope to go down
    are the right ones...at least in my book, your book will probably say something like "viva Castro cause
    it sounds cool!" An don't worry the phyc test wont notice a thing lolz.

    To vulcan i do not fight communism i fight the regime that refuses to apologize
    to my dad and treated a smart loyal patriot { I have had arguments where he does say its better than America
    and he acknowledges later its not as good as the U.S and then come back to its better...did that make your brain hurt?}
    who would easily become a good math teacher there.
  7. Demondaze Xenos Scum

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    I don't see the AirForce accepting someone who exhibits the potential to highjack government property and initiate an international incident.
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  8. 3man75 Well-Known Member

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    very sorry...stalin
    High jack goverment property? you must not know that only 4% of A.F personel are fighter pilots right?
    An i dont have to initiate nothing castro has consoldiated power to himself with his sons as succesors, furthermore
    people like camilo sienfuego {sinfuego translates to 100 fires in spanish} is one of MANY communist politicians that
    castro got rid of. Castro follows the stalin path very clearly not letting che guevera or even his own brother get the spotlight.
    When people find out he dies than the people will truly begin civil resistance.

    also hey demon i see you your xenom skum can you tell me what kind of xenom are you?
  9. Demondaze Xenos Scum

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    The kind with a massive death-cult following.
  10. 3man75 Well-Known Member

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    very sorry...stalin
    An you call me a murder bro man? btw what do you think of globalization as a communist {you red bro?!}.
  11. Yarpen Well-Known Member

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    U mad bro?
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    no bro you mad? i ain't mad. you mad bro?
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    I'll be mad bros if you guys start spamming that.
  14. Demondaze Xenos Scum

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    I'm not a red, and I'm rather fond of globalization for a good many reasons.
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    do you think globalization would make it harder for new companies to form and go big?
    by big i mean super corporation. Im not too knowledgable on the subject so amuse me a bit won't you good
    Xenom?
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    Well, that's how capitalism rolls, right? Competing and stuff.
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    Probably.

    Xeno*
  18. Soviet Streltsy Well-Known Member

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    Well, Yes. Globalization will indeed make it harder for new companies not already established on the mulitnationial front to reach the status of "Big Businesses". For with the newly opened markets being predisposed to domination by the already established businesses such as Microsoft, Mcdonalds, ect. it leaves very little to no room for actual competitors to present an actual challenge to the bigger businesses.

    The Free-Market thus no longer becomes free as the largest of the Big Businesses will set and control prices for their products with no actual need to lower or present a reasonable price due to the lack of competition. However, even if the competition as I mentioned is extremely damaged. It will never be completely extinguished due to present technology and the widespread and extremely avalible knowledge, what with Private Internet Users being able to independently aquire products and sell them for lower prices or even give them off for free. Or other small businesses and individuals being recoginized for better service and or prices by a local or even regional populace. However, only 100 years earlier, this would not be the case. A business could easily manage to oust it competition and form a complete monopoly that has virtually no competition in those days as it sought to maximize profit and expland into "greener pastures" by expanding its products.
  19. crocve Well-Known Member

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    Conservatives are also for big government. Mainly on social issues, like taking the right to perform abortion or the right to same-sex marriage.
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    Your not helping your case here.

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