Nazi Victory, Was it really possible?

Discussion in 'Historical Events Coffee House' started by Sokol-1, Nov 22, 2011.

  1. Romulus211 Proconsul

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    A necropost post and a double post, thats some serious rule breaking, edit your second post into your first one before the mods find out.
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    I have the feeling a post is missing.
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    I have a feeling you're right.
  4. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    Well, it probably doesn't count as a necro. Last post on this thread was what, February? So thats....only around four and a half months. Therefore, its not a necro (isn't necro like 6 months?)
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    I thought a necro was 1 month but I can be wrong about that.
  6. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    Well...I don't know...I'll look it up.

    EDIT: I can't find it anywhere in the rules. It would be useful if the rules would specify exactly how long after one post you could post without it being necroposting.
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    I'm pretty sure I saw it somewhere in the rules.
  8. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    In the old ones, but I don't think it says anything in the new ones.
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    @Bart How long is a necropost?
  10. Bart (Moderator) NKVD Channel Maintainer

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    I'm not sure. It used to be 8, but someone proposed it to be 2. I'm not sure how that ended.
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    Seriously?
    Only two hours now?!
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  12. Bart (Moderator) NKVD Channel Maintainer

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    Hmm... I forgot to say it was in months, didn't I?
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    I believe a Necropost is 4 months now.
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    I would say that without Stalin then maybe the soviets would have fallen by 1942 or something, but who can tell really? The soviets lost a lot in 1941 and barely made it to the next year. If the Germans played on their victory and settled for the same treaty in 1918 to take Ukraine, Belarus, and the Baltic regions rather then a much more substantial conquest for his vision on Colonizing Russia with Germans ,which would have meant the probable extermination of the Russian people as he regarded them as lowly like the Jewish peoples of Europe. In that case it would be a tragedy unlike any witnessed in human history. But honestly, who knows. The Soviet Union did a terrible job in the winter war so victory was not actually an unrealistic expectation against the USSR. However, taking out Britain is a whole other kettle of fish because the ocean is in the way on top of the British Navy. Due to the challenge of conquering Britain, its most likely a diplomatic settlement of some kind would end the war should the Soviet Union fall. The terms would depend on the outcome of the North African campaign.
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    Someone really needs to go clarify that in the rules right now :p

    How are we not to necropost if we don't even know how long the time period is?
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    Any kind of war with the Soviet Russia, according to just about everyone should start and end pretty fast, the germans knew this and advanced really, really fast eventually findind very heavy resistance in Moscow and Leningrad. On Stalingrad they almost took control of it but the armies from Siberia had arrived to break the siege of it and eventually encircle the German army that I don't remember the number right now, crippling the southern front and eventually leading to the german's demise. In Leningrad if the Finnish had accepted to help in the siege, they could've probably taken it and Moscow was another story, because the germans couldn't really fight in the winter as they weren't prepared for it.
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    It was Hitler's disastrous policy of never retreating that lost the Nazis WW2. Do you know there were 400,000 front line soldiers in the Baltics that he wouldn't let retreat? There were another 400,000 in Norway that could have been greatly reduced. Hitler still had a bunch of people, he was just an idiot. Oh, and there were like 6 full SS divisions in Berlin all the way to the fall of it...
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    Armies that relieved Soviets in Stalingrad came from center (Moscow front) -.-''
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    The only way I can see Britain having lost the war is if we humour the idea that the Soviets would somehow lose. If we put aside this dubious assumption for a moment and just roll with it, the most likely scenario would probably have been that Churchill might be ousted from government and replaced with someone more willing to make a deal with Hitler. But as people have said, the biggest barrier is the Channel. And the barrier almost as big as that is the fact that throughout the entire war, Germany didn't have a fleet of transports large enough to mount an amphibious invasion. So even if they could somehow destroy the RAF and the Royal Navy, they wouldn't be able to do much else. Their best bet would've been to force a surrender through attrition, and with America even prior to 1941 firmly in Britain's camp, that seems unlikely. FDR simply wouldn't have allowed it to happen, and perhaps when you think about it, America represents the biggest, or at least second biggest problem with any potential Nazi victory.
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    In 1940 with out Churchill united kingdom would have most likely surrendered because many members of parliament and ministers wanted peace and tried to persuade Churchill to do it, UK´s desperate situation at the time had no end in sight. Also a small fact: from 1940 to summer1941 (before the lend and lease program) UK had to pay for US supplies. And that's considered one the biggest reasons US got out of depression. UK bumped huge amounts of money to US and sold many UK businesses to US at a laughing price.

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