Eastern European History

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  1. ddbb089 Well-Known Member

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    Well both really.A-H hasn't really been in a war outside WW1 since it was announced.
    ddbb089, Jan 15, 2012
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  2. GeneralofCarthage Well-Known Member

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    I wished the Ottomans had destroyed the Habsurgs.......Probably wouldn't have had a WWI.
    GeneralofCarthage, Jan 15, 2012
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    The Habsburg empire later became Austrian-Hungary and they fought on the same side as the Ottomans in WW1. But no Habsburgs means no Franz Ferdinand. I guess sooner or later in that scenario... The sultan's heir apparent will get assassinated by some Bosnian nationalist. And the because the Ottomans were allied with the Germans to prevent the Russians from gaining a foothold in Balkans... And Russia is allied with France and Great Britian.
    battleearl, Jan 15, 2012
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  4. GeneralofCarthage Well-Known Member

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    True but I think the Ottomans would have lasted longer. Many of the Balkans wouldn't have gained independence if the Ottomans had conquered Vienna meaning a larger and stronger empire. Weren't the Habsurgs in Germany too?
    GeneralofCarthage, Jan 15, 2012
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  5. battleearl Well-Known Member

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    Not really according to this map... But they originated from what is now southern Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany...
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    battleearl, Jan 15, 2012
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  6. Karakoran Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure we can all agree they were based mostly in Austria and Austria is basically German except for the most modern times.
    Karakoran, Jan 15, 2012
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  7. GeneralofCarthage Well-Known Member

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    Well almost all of the rulers in WWI were related somehow so I wouldn't be suprised if they were.
    GeneralofCarthage, Jan 15, 2012
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  8. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    World war 1 was the largest family feud in history.
    Viking Socrates, Jan 15, 2012
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  9. GeneralofCarthage Well-Known Member

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    My brother stole my candy (Official Decleration of War).
    GeneralofCarthage, Jan 15, 2012
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  10. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Interesting fact, throughout the entire war both Kaiser Wilhelm the 2nd and Czar Nicholas the 2nd sent telegraphs and letters to each other.
    Viking Socrates, Jan 15, 2012
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  11. Aloysius Well-Known Member

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    Thats right i believe they were cousins.
    Aloysius, Jan 15, 2012
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  12. yuri2045 A Marines Biologist

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    I think that's the king of the UK and the Kaiser.
    yuri2045, Jan 15, 2012
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  13. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Nope so was the Czar and Kaiser.
    Viking Socrates, Jan 15, 2012
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  14. yuri2045 A Marines Biologist

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    So as you said, WW 1 was just a family struggle.
    yuri2045, Jan 15, 2012
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  15. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Pretty much, you can imagine the soldiers going

    "Fuck this shit, Let them sort out there own family issues"
    Viking Socrates, Jan 15, 2012
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    Csar Nicholas II and Kaiser Wilhelm II were cousins
    Here is one of the telegrams- July 28, 1914
    "To try to aviod such a calamity as a European war, I beg you in the name of our old friendship to do what you can to stop your allies from going too far"
    Also George V (King of England) was cousins with the Csar and the Kaiser.
    Vassilli1942, Jan 15, 2012
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  17. GeneralofCarthage Well-Known Member

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    Reasons for the war:
    The Tsar stole the Kaiser's candy when he was little.
    The King helped the Tsar.
    GeneralofCarthage, Jan 15, 2012
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  18. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    And that kids is why the Europeans are so weird.
    Viking Socrates, Jan 15, 2012
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    OTTOMAN GLORY SHALL RISE AGAIN!
    GeneralofCarthage, Jan 15, 2012
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  20. Aloysius Well-Known Member

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    Not if i and my ancestors can help it! I will send the Ottamans back to the middle east if they dare enter Europe again!
    lol
    Aloysius, Jan 16, 2012
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