Does someone Owning a Confederate Flag make them a Racist?

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  1. JosefVStalin El Presidente

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    So I see this a lot, someone with a confederate flag in the background of a YouTube video or a politician wearing a confederate flag pin and the automatic response of everyone is to immediately accuse them of being a racist. While I know that the south owned slaves and part of the reason they fought in the civil war was to protect their rights to own slaves and blah blah blah. However, I can’t help but feel there is something else at play here and because I am not American, and I don’t have that cultural background, is simply lost on me.
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    Does someone Owning a Confederate Flag make them a Racis

    No owning a Confederate Flag doesn't automatically make you racist, some really just like Civil War history, but most of the people that own a Confederate Flag are just rednecks.
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    Does someone Owning a Confederate Flag make them a Racis

    It doesn't make you a racist. It might mean you are redneck and all but I wouldn't say racist. I live in New Jersey and the flags are kinda like a Che Guevara shirt. Its a sign of rebellion and what not. So I guess its just a rednecks symbol of rebellion.
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    Does someone Owning a Confederate Flag make them a Racis

    Also, that flag has come to symbolize the South so many southerners own one. (At least from what I've seen visiting southern relatives)
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    Does someone Owning a Confederate Flag make them a Racis

    Not necessarily a racist, just an idiot.
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    Does someone Owning a Confederate Flag make them a Racis

    They say the flag is a symbol of southern pride and southern heritage, but isn't that just code for white pride and white heritage? After all, there's a lot of black people in the south, but you almost never see them waving the Confederate Flag.
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    Does someone Owning a Confederate Flag make them a Racis

    Well obviously they wouldn't. But I don't think that simply owning a Confederate flag makes you a racist. Might mean you're a redneck but not always a racist. I remember when I was in school(I'm from North Carolina so I'm from the south) some of the kids showed up wearing confederate hats. They didn't do this because they say hated the non white students because I was friends with them, they did it cause they're southern. We knew their parents too. I would say though that most who have the flag on things are rednecks, interested in the civil war or possibly racist.
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    Does someone Owning a Confederate Flag make them a Racis

    I guess it depends on how you define racism. I don't believe all Confederate Flag wavers hate all nonwhites necessarily, but I still suspect there is a level of bigotry in the celebration of white pride and white heritage, assuming that's what the flag actually represents.
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    Does someone Owning a Confederate Flag make them a Racis

    Well I personally don't understand it beyond a collector of civil war stuff wanting it or a racist wanting it in the same way as a swastika but I have known a few people to use it just to celebrate being from the south for whatever reason. Or at least they didn't let on to me that it was celebrating white heritage and pride. I have trouble understanding what rednecks do. I do consider it a redneck thing.
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    Does someone Owning a Confederate Flag make them a Racis

    I think that most people use it at a southern pride thing. The South is still probably the most sectionalist part of the US and the flag represents the south.
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    Does someone Owning a Confederate Flag make them a Racis

    Sure it's racist - they chose to get one despite the risks, right? That and it'd be like having a Libyan rebel flag (in Libya) several years after Gaddafi defeats them (if he defeats them, obviously that's a debate in itself). In fact, said flag belongs to the pre-revolution government, so people under that flag have already fought against the current rulers, just as the Confederates fought the Unionists. Not that I have anything against Southern nationalism, not everyone down there was a plantation owning klan member, right? Plus a confederation sounds marginally fairer than a union :)
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    Does someone Owning a Confederate Flag make them a Racis

    The people who wear the flag may not be racist, but the flag sure as heck symbolizes racism nonetheless.

    A southerner will argue that the Civil War was not about slaves, it was about states' rights.. yes the states rights to own slaves. :p It is a symbol of racism no doubt about it since that's the reason that spurred the creation of that flag. So while to some whites it could be the meaning of pride of southern heritage, they should also understand that to blacks it symbolizes their oppression throughout history in that region.
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    Does someone Owning a Confederate Flag make them a Racis

    Having a confederate flag doesnt mean your a racist just means your a redneck who hasent gotten over the civil war



    Oh and one more thing this will be my theme song when i enter the fourm :)
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    Does someone Owning a Confederate Flag make them a Racis

    A redneck who hasn't gotten over the civil war probably is a racist. It really is little better than a Ku-Klux-Klan flag, because of all the connotations that go with it (apart from maybe the Dukes of Hazzard).
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    Does someone Owning a Confederate Flag make them a Racis

    Ku Klux Klan is the only White supremeist organisation who hasent gone to selling herion and Crack Cocaine
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    Does someone Owning a Confederate Flag make them a Racis

    I know many people who own Confederate flags and adorn themselves in Confederate symbols. It is more of a Southern pride thing that is used by blindly jingoistic rednecks who are still butthurt that the south lost the Civil War.

    And no, owning one doesn't make someone a racist, but many people that I know who do just so happen to be racists.
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    Does someone Owning a Confederate Flag make them a Racis

    Lol, are a lot of racists into selling drugs? I guess they might be. Actually, crack and heroin are apparently 'white man' drugs, so maybe it's because they all boycott ganja or something. :lol:
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    Does someone Owning a Confederate Flag make them a Racis

    I have to say that the people who fly them publicly outside are probably racist. What better way of saying non-whites aren't welcome then having a confederate flag waving outside your home or place of business. With that said, its also a just a way for rednecks to identify one another although you would think their smell would be sufficient at doing that.
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    Does someone Owning a Confederate Flag make them a Racis

    From the perspective of a Texan, we sorta replaced the the Confederate flag with the Texas flag, and Southern pride with Texas pride. So, usually when I see a Confederate flag it means that chances are the owner is racist.
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    Does someone Owning a Confederate Flag make them a Racis

    This.

    To me the Confederate flag represents Treason more than anything. You can't fly the Confederate flag and claim to be a patriot. What is even more ridiculous is some people here in Pennsylvania fly confederate flags, I mean what the hell.

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