Communism: Dirty and Stupid or Just Stupid?

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KK. I'll consider this later...

I don't see why the communist society cant make a machine.

Sure it can, but the ideology absolutely glorifies manual labor. You yourself dismiss activities that don't directly produce a physical outcome or perform a limited array of services. Organizing, managing, planning, and tons of other important skills are demonized because they require someone to direct workers.

As well, the goal of society shouldn't be full employment, it should be the excision of manual labor altogether. No one should be using hammers, nail guns, or even working on assembly lines in an ideal society.

The overall idea is that communism glorifies the working class and toil, when a much more reasonable goal would be to dismantle the working class and abolish toil.

Edit: Fucking ninjad!

I dismiss when owners and managers exploit workers, rotational managering for workers can be done. But regardless when we reach the stage of communism, everyone works in whatever job they feel like doing.

During the period of time, whether it be mutualism or the dictatorship of the proletariat, workers could in theory hirer a expert to help them do things.

Missing the point here.

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Demon's post informed me, ill think about this and tomorrow Il hopefully have a reply. Sorry for thinking you were trolling.

For the record, I only use the hammer and sickle idea for face value.
A Communism requires a service sector, without any doubt. The problem is that when people think 'service' they think hotels, restaurants, and theaters. Service also includes engineering, acrhitecture, and practical applications of science and mathematics. Obviously, a Communism would need these things.

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@Lenin
No problem rasta.

@Imperial
No doubt, but its goal isn't to abolish labor. Communism is in love with labor, it wants to have labor's babies. That's just not a good attitude, we should be looking to remove labor from the equation altogether.

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Depends on your definition of labor. I could call any kind of work labor, if only to put it in a Communism. Besides, the likelyhood that people will subtract human labor from the equation is sadly very small. Too little technology in cybernetics and too many people watching things like Robocop, Terminator, and IRobot. For whatever reason, one good book was not enough for Hollywood, and they had to overdo it and kill the idea of a machine-maintained utopia in the population. Then again, it does have some merit... if we were stupid enough to ever give the machines A.I. on the same level as our own...
Damn it, now I'm just rambling.

I admit I thought you were drunk or something so I didn't bother to reply to the OP.

No wonder family circus sucks. It's run by the JUZ!

Communists are miners not Farmers......

The glorification of manual labor is a obviously a issue, but the issue does not mean communism is inherently wrong. Maybe it would be best for the communist ideology to adapt to support intellectuals better. I currently hold the opinion that if inventors and thinkers are employed by some agency, they are proletarian and have just as much support by the communist ideology as people in factory's and farms. But I don't see how this destroys communist ideology.

Can you not see a few ways this could easily lead back into capitalism Lenin, and yeah he is not touching on the point of thread.

I like how you didnt finish reading the rest of the posts.