'Chinese Peasents Getting Uppity' Part II

Call BS all you want, democracy is the most reliable form of achieving state/government responsiveness(that doesn't mean it always happens)
Only if you let them. The US might be an administrative mess, but look at a country like Germany, and you will see that it can be done, and in most cases, it works quite well. The same applies for responsiveness. Like I said, Monarchs are mostly completly out of touch with their population.

Britain is still a monarchy, but they were a parliamentary monarchy with large amount of control/representation to the people(compared to countries like Germany, The Habsburg Empire, Bulgaria, Russia, The Ottoman Empire)

Mussolini was probably one of the most incompetent fools when we talk about military strategy and to some extent diplomacy and industry. He did quite well in media and PR though. Same with Hitler(not diplomacy), although he at least had some sense in leaving military matters somewhat to the generals etc. but when it started to go bad, he took the reigns again. While Hitler(or rather his minister Hjalmar Schacht) brought the unemployment rate down, the German state ran with a huge deficit in these years and only managed to stay afloat thanks to it's later conquests and the forced labourers(essentially slaves) from those conquests.

You never once brought up republican dictatorship, pretty much elective dictatorships, don't get me wrong democracies are all fine and dandy but in my opinion they can also be horribly bad. What I don't understand is what your point is? I stated an opinion on democracy. There really is no point, arguing over opinions its just going to end up going in circles, I can continue if you want me too

1. Nazi Germany was a "republican dictatorship" in the sense that the German people elected Hitler.(or he got 41% of the votes I think)
2. You stated your opinion as a fact saying: This is what it is....
3. It rubs me the wrong way. The reason I'm posting here and not just watching the videos is because I like to argue/discuss issues etc.
4. Your statement was blatantly false, so I had to point that out. Like if someone said the Holocaust didn't happen, I would have to address that as well.

Alright then let's do this, fascist regimes have lasted long and have prospered with a sense of democacy. Poland was a elective monarchy. Which is the same as a republican.dictatorship in theory, the kind of fascism I support is Oliver cromwells lord protecter idea. They still had a centralized democracy, so I will switch my point from fascist dictators to centralized democracies.

Like I said, we're a Republic bro. Democracy is only one piece of the puzzle here.

Franco's Spain lasted a good period of time(not long though) but it never prospered. In fact I would say that Spain stagnated under Franco.
With a sense of democracy? not sure what you mean...

It's nowhere near the same, and they suffered hugely from indecisiveness and that was one of the reasons why they failed miserably. The could never decide on anything or any reform and was conquered/partitioned by Prussia, Russia and The Habsburgs. Their elected kings were almost always weak and a compromise made my the huge Polish nobility.(something like 10% of the population)

Oh yeah because that went well... People want a say in the government, and you really need to realise this...

It doesn't matter what you call it, it'll still be the same old dirty authoritarian shit. Sorry man, but electing someone to rule for life is not a good idea, no matter what you might think of the person at the given time of the election.

And elect

electing a bunch of assholes who are currupted easily and never get anything done is better then a centralized government where something good or bad, something will be done?

Although I'll always be shy to admit it, I support an autocratic government over a democratic government, so long as said autocrat is a liberal as I am. And of course there's always the succession issue...

You have to be shy about it, there's nothing wrong with it.

Now I despise democracy just as much as the next guy, but is an oligarchy really any better?

Nothing is any better, there all the same.

There is a difference between a Republic and an Oligarchy. A Republic equalizes the playing field for all special interest groups, while an Oligarchy places one group above all others.

Refer back to two points I made earlier.
1. There are only Republics and Oligarchies
2. A Republic does not equal a Democracy.

That actually does make sense

I try.

Opinion again. Please provide some facts for your ridiculous statements or I will stop answering you and spend my time on something more constructive. I gave examples of well working, efficient, and manouverable democracies and you countered by talking about the most inefficient government ever.(Poland-Lithuania) While I do try to convince people that they are wrong, I'm not going to spend time on it if you repeatedly ignoring most of my points.

You can't really argue for something that never existed, so I guess I concede this debate with my opinions and views unchanged.