The Morality of the Death Penalty.

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  1. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    In my opinion it is barbaric, how could you kill someone as punishment???
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    It depends on how much you value life although I am slowly losing my stance of pro rehabilitation.
  3. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    You don't have to be pro-rehab, you just have to be anti-murder.
  4. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Very tough decision to be made, tough i argue (via american standpoint) that is up to the state to decide if they should allow the death penalty or not tough i would make sure its for a just reason and they have a just trial. Tough personally im against it in the majority of cases.
  5. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    Though!!!!

    And we are not discussing the legality of it or states rights, we discussing the morality of murdering someone in retribution for crimes.

    I suggest that everyone read this site: http://www.antideathpenalty.org/statistics.html.
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    Though!!!!

    And we are not discussing the legality of it or states rights, we discussing the morality of murdering someone in retribution for crimes.

    I suggest that everyone read this site: http://www.antideathpenalty.org/statistics.html.[/quote:3c2zp070]

    Killing someone for any crime is immoral, were bast that age of killing for a crime. So yeah personally i say im against it tough i have no situation of someone else wants to do it i can understand the viewpoint tough i think its immoral.
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    Though!!!!

    And we are not discussing the legality of it or states rights, we discussing the morality of murdering someone in retribution for crimes.

    I suggest that everyone read this site: http://www.antideathpenalty.org/statistics.html.[/quote:1it9d0x3]

    Killing someone for any crime is immoral, were bast that age of killing for a crime. So yeah personally i say im against it tough i have no situation of someone else wants to do it i can understand the viewpoint tough i think its immoral.[/quote:1it9d0x3]
    Fucking though! With an "h"!! What the hell is wrong with you?
  8. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Though!!!!

    And we are not discussing the legality of it or states rights, we discussing the morality of murdering someone in retribution for crimes.

    I suggest that everyone read this site: http://www.antideathpenalty.org/statistics.html.[/quote:332c25wk]

    Killing someone for any crime is immoral, were bast that age of killing for a crime. So yeah personally i say im against it tough i have no situation of someone else wants to do it i can understand the viewpoint tough i think its immoral.[/quote:332c25wk]
    Fucking though! With an "h"!! What the hell is wrong with you?[/quote:332c25wk]

    Well find im sorry can we please get on the subject of death penalty and how is immoral to kill someone even tough some people are going to view it as justified.
  9. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    Oh my god lol
    Is english not your first language by any chance? If so I'm sorry.
  10. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    I honestly don't know what your talking about, tough i believe we should stay on topic here please.
  11. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    I honestly don't know what your talking about, tough i believe we should stay on topic here please.[/quote:2ezdjlg9]
    I must still be trippin cus this is hilarious.
    Im out.
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    I honestly don't know what your talking about, tough i believe we should stay on topic here please.[/quote:1dbidvzl]
    I must still be trippin cus this is hilarious.
    Im out.[/quote:1dbidvzl]

    fucking junkie man thinking it be though ha its tough learn to spell and do English rights.
  13. MayorEmanuel Do not weep, for salvation is coming.

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    What if it was your wife that was murdered? Would you not feel to the need to seek out and kill the murderer yourself (I sure would)? Would you than argue that society should be better than an individual.
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    He is in prison im pretty sure he allready got his justice, also it takes so much time for the death penalty to be used and by that point who cares if they died for a murder they committed so many years ago.


    and if he really wanted to kill some just announce in prison he molested and raped a child, if he is not put in solitary confinement he will die.
  15. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    To kill a man in a fit of rage or passion is at least understandable, but to kill him after calm and serious meditation and deliberation is nothing short of the most barbaric crime possible.

    But then that is not what we are discussing. We are discussing whether it is okay for the state to execute someone, not whether it is bad for somebody to want a murderer dead.
  16. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    You just previously said that were not arguing if it is o.k for the state to execute someone, which i believe that personally its wrong but the state should have the ability to need be. So to answer you ever so narrowing topic, im against it.
  17. MayorEmanuel Do not weep, for salvation is coming.

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    A crime is a crime, motivation shouldn't matter. Does someone who has committed a crime as heinous as murder be given the mercy he refused to his fellow man? I would say no, although the death penalty is not a deterrent because so few people are executed. Capital punishment is a nessecairy evil, a lasting testament to the evil getting their just reward.
  18. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Capital Punishment is not a nessecairy evil, its barbaric and wrong he will serve his time in prison getting beat up and ganged raped most days.

    Motivation will allways matter; if someone mugs you on the street and you shot theme, did you not just commit murder? yes you did however you motivation was self defense, if you steal food or money in order to live is not your motivation survival. Motivation is the number one thing courts look for in a crime.
  19. MayorEmanuel Do not weep, for salvation is coming.

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    You have no idea what goes on in prison. It's not some nonstop homo-erotic orgy.

    When I say motivation I mean premeditated vs fit of rage, self defense is different.
  20. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Do any of us really know what goes on in prison unless we go there? tough no i think the media overplays it as if you go to prison you will get raped, it might happen but more then likely you will just get beat up. Tough i will never want to go to prison, and if i was ever sent to prison i would propley seek out isolationism to survive.

    Fits of rage are viewed as not that bad as premeditation because in a fit of rage you shot the person and killed theme right then and there without thinking, while with premeditation you had the chance to think about what your about to do and you still did it, which premeditation is a very big factor in deciding if the death penalty is necessariy.

    Though i want to hear your opinion on something. 2 years ago a 14 year old kid tried to steal a 86 year old women's car with a eight inch knife (illegal to own) now the 86 year old took out a smith and Wesson .357 magnum, the boy droped the gun and ran which then the lady decided to fire it on the boy not once, not twice, but three times. Two of the bullets stroke the boy in the back and killed him. She drove off in the car and left the .357 magnum at the crime scene. Later at court when it was reveled what happen She was let go on reasons of self defense (tough the boy had allready droped his knife and ran) and because the outcry of putting a 86 year old in jail for what the population saw as correct was so great. So im asking is this; Was the women justified in doing so, should she had been tried and sentence, and to what extended was her crime?

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