America starting to collapse?

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  1. SovietEmpireUSSR Well-Known Member

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    Since the American Economy is decreasing and starting to collapse. How will the American people start to react to this problem.

    Will a huge Revolution happen in America in the near future, were people will start too show solidarity, or people will start to support far leftist or rightist movements?

    Or

    Do you just think America will sort it self out, and nothing major will happen?
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    It's not collapsing, it's recovering. Obviously it will be sorted out, though there will likely be some more major changes to economic policy in the intervening period.
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    [/quote]It's not collapsing, it's recovering. Obviously it will be sorted out, though there will likely be some more major changes to economic policy in the intervening period.[/quote]

    I thought it was collapsing? How is it starting to recover?

    Sorry, dude. I'm from United Kingdom, i don't no the full story on what's going on in the US, please forgive me.
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  4. Lenin Cat Well-Known Member

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    Lulz, yah right. Theres a increasing degree of risk of hyperinflation. Its obvious in the increase of food, metal, and oil prices.
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    That would be too bad if that likely happened. It may fold down to that.
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    Its very unlikely that America will completely collapse anytime soon, it will decrease in standing and power, but not collapse.
    glodraz, May 8, 2011
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    The economy was on the verge of collapsing almost 3 years ago... There isn't really any risk of hyperinflation unless the US were to default on its debt, which wouldn't really cause a drastic increase in commodities, it would be more detrimental to the financial sector. Food isn't really increasing in prices, and oil isn't increasing at such a rate that it is adversely affecting anything. Gas is still more expensive in almost ever non-oil producing country in the world. Side note, whats the Canadian gas tax at? I've always wondered why gas is more money there even though you guys produce most of it.

    edit: wages actually out paced the cpi in the past year, so yea, there's not really any danger of hyper inflation anytime soon.
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  8. Lenin Cat Well-Known Member

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    The CPI doesnt factor in food prices and increases in precious metals.
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  9. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

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    Yes it does.... It's even the first item in their tables....
    http://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.htm

    Precious metals don't really factor into much of anything. Manufacturing productivity increased 6.3% (not that the US economy is based off of that) and labor costs declined 3.5%, meaning any increase in costs of raw materials is being offset by profits.
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    Recovery phase, not collapsing. :ugeek:
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  11. Lenin Cat Well-Known Member

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    Ill just say this, the USA has a mall economy, it is totally unsuitable and will collapse, we just dont know when. We may or may not make it out of this crisis, but a mall economy will fall.
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  12. SovietEmpireUSSR Well-Known Member

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    The time will come soon! No empire survives forever.
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  13. JayJayGT Well-Known Member

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    It may Soviet, but America isn't going now and it sure as hell won't go quietly.
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    Thats why the US is not a Empire.
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    127-138 cents per litre.
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    Thats why the US is not a Empire.[/quote:3oss48pl]

    US are following the pretext of an Empire.
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  17. JayJayGT Well-Known Member

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    Goddamn it! Everybody knows us, British people pay the most for petrol or "gas". :)
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    Why? Because an economy can't survive based off luxury goods? Almost every indicator has the retail industry expanding in the past 2 years. There isn't any reason to believe this trend isn't going to continue. Unemployment is shrinking, maybe not as fast as people would like, but if 30% unemployment with almost zero revenue didn't KO the economy in the 30s, 8% unemployment with growth in all sectors now isn't going to deliver the blow. The 08 crisis showed that the credit industry is never going to fail so long as the Federal government is around. Keynesian economics work. Unless America disbands its military, China switches back to communism, invades and occupies the country and changes the fundamental aspects of the global economy, it's not going to change.

    In the sense were openly annexing and colonizing foreign lands? Imperialism isn't the same thing as empire. Even if you subscribe to Imperialism doctrine, it's still an intellectual stretch to say that since America is dominating the global economy, were able to explicitly set domestic policy on foreign lands and conscript their workers and tax their lands...

    Exactly! But your economy isn't on the verge of collapse... Gas could hit $10 / gallon in the states, and yea it would suck, and people would drive less, but the economy would march on
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  19. SovietEmpireUSSR Well-Known Member

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    British petrol should fall in price back in February. Like back then it was £6 a gallon of petrol. Probably gone up now. We one of the highest in Europe for prices of Petrol.

    134.01p a litre now i'm taking it.
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  20. SovietEmpireUSSR Well-Known Member

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    Why? Because an economy can't survive based off luxury goods? Almost every indicator has the retail industry expanding in the past 2 years. There isn't any reason to believe this trend isn't going to continue. Unemployment is shrinking, maybe not as fast as people would like, but if 30% unemployment with almost zero revenue didn't KO the economy in the 30s, 8% unemployment with growth in all sectors now isn't going to deliver the blow. The 08 crisis showed that the credit industry is never going to fail so long as the Federal government is around. Keynesian economics work. Unless America disbands its military, China switches back to communism, invades and occupies the country and changes the fundamental aspects of the global economy, it's not going to change.

    In the sense were openly annexing and colonizing foreign lands? Imperialism isn't the same thing as empire. Even if you subscribe to Imperialism doctrine, it's still an intellectual stretch to say that since America is dominating the global economy, were able to explicitly set domestic policy on foreign lands and conscript their workers and tax their lands...

    Occupy countries such as Iraq, Afghanistan, and next to be Libya. American's cause havoc in this countries. Killing people, rape, etc. After full occupation, you decide to steal all the countries rich resources. But all before this, going straight back to the beginning of all this. You make up big excuses to invades this countries, so the whole world can think it's an legitimate war going on, when it's clearly not. Examples, Iraq, perfectly illegal war. Making out Suddam Hussein had WMD, which he clearly didn't have, and he was no potential threat to anyone.

    I can go on, but i'll leave it here for now. Friendly debate, not aggressively going against you. Just like to say what i want.
    SovietEmpireUSSR, May 8, 2011
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