Battlestar Galactica

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  1. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

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    Conserning the newest one:

    Some of the acting was sketchy, the plot holes many and unforgivable, and the ending was all around awful, but liked it otherwise.

    Thoughts?
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    I liked the ending, could you tell me why you didn't
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    It just seemed like a total blop on the story, like the writers prefered to end the story quickly rather than write it out thouroghly.
    Beyond all, it just seemed so improbable.
    A small group of elitests decide to abandon millenia of technological, social/cultural, politcal, and other advancements for the mystical idea of 'starting over'. And then everyone in the fleet just happens to hear this insane idea and agrees.
    I could argue that in other sci-fi shows, such an improbable ending would be totally acceptable, but BSG was partly based on the idea that: here a group of reletively normal human beings thrust against their will into a desperate flight and attempts to survive as a species.
    The idea is just... unreasonable to me. It felt like a fairy-tale, duex ex machinma moment and therefore deprived of the 'reality' idea that the show was based on.
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    Well I guess the idea was that if they abandon technology (unlike the 13 tribes of kobol) they would stop cycle. And the reason that rest of the fleet accepted was because they were tired, and had no choice, Galactica was useless etc.
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    Forgive me if I nitpick at the reasoning that you give but I feel the necessity.
    Yeah, because that would TOTALLY work. Completely forget about the past and erase all record of it.
    Even the IOM did a better job of not making any more A.I.
    That is a pretty lame excuse, plot wise, and improbable in reality.
    What is that? They were a Democratic society. THEY held the power, not the elitests.
    So? What need did they have for it?
    They weren't fighting each other and the remaining Cylons posed no threat since they were leaving.
    The rest of the fleet was still perfectly sound, even if the Galactica couldn't make another jump.
    And the Galactica could still be used as a obital station and launching point for fighters.
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    1. Makes sense to me, a fresh start. Also cylons and humans living together in peace for the first time.

    2. Well the population was only getting smaller, no resources etc

    3. I meant they "had no choice" because of recourses, moral.

    Would you have liked that they started to live in earth with the same technology etc? (galactiga was almost at he's breaking point btw) and there's was no assurance that their machines would last a another decade.

    And finally the segmentation of the population was because they felt that if huge number of people lives in one area, food,resources etc would be a problem (especially with their technology) sorry if its hard to read.. I wrote this 7 am so I am little bit tired
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    They weren't 'living together'. The real Cylons said "**** this!" and took off. Remember?
    1. That is no reason to abandon technology. Quite the opposite in fact.
    2. So? What did the shrink in population have to do with the ridiculous nature of the decision? Suppose that abandoning the millenia of technological progress would improve the growth of the population in some way? What about cancers and other illnesses that I can bet you they encountered later on and said "Gee, I wish we hadn't sent our entire supply of X medicine into the sun!".
    3. They are orbiting a planet that is ripe with resources. The only thing that it probably didn't have was the fuel they used for their jump drives.
    Moral? What is moral about abandoning your progeny to their fates at the hands of wars, illnesses, and general anarchy for the sake of 'a fresh start'.
    And not to mention that their decendents wouldn't have the luxury of a prophesy of a mystical planet that they could make their new home on once the Cylons 3.0 destroy the planet that they just landed on.
    Yes, now that you ask it, I would. It would make infinitely more sense.
    The Galactica had a 'broken back', but it would still be useful. It carried everything from medical stations to food processors to armnements to being a center of command. It couldn't make another jump, but it was still sound enough in space, so long as it maintained its orbit. Which it would, since the stresses probably wouldn't be great enough to break it even if they did fire the engines to maintain orbit.
    No assurance, but it was still more useful to have those ships than not. And their ships were in space. They would probably last quite a bit longer than the humans that drove them. They could cannabilize the lesser ships to maintain the good ones.
    From what I understand, you are saying that there would be population strain.
    Population strain?! They just arrived at a planet with abundent resources! They could produce food with ship processors! They had an entire planet to spread out on!
    That is no excuse at all.
    Indeed, the abandoning of the ships made for even more population strain to come. They would have no technology, but still live with some 40,000+ people. Do you realize that city-states in Babylon's time had considered that many people alot? The loss of technology would have made maintaining that population almost impossible.
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    The best explanation I can think of is that it was an extremely religious experience for them, and a lot of people wanted to just get rid of all their major problems by abandoning the issues altogether.
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    My Avatar says it all. I friggin' loved "Battlestar Galactica". The end was a bit of a tit, but other than that, I've never experienced better Science Fiction.
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    Can I call you Romo?
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    What is that supposed to mean?
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    Sure, what ever brings you kicks bro :D
    Well I have romo lampkin as profile picture
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    Most awesome guy in the entire show.
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