Suspended 5 games for admiring Fidel Castro

Yes, I can do it too
By the way, I don't really mean that. I just want the thread back on topic again and we can create a thread about communes to discuss if we want to. I'm just not going to change my political views for the fact that you disagree.

He said something like, "I admire Castro. Do you know why? He had survived many assassination attempts in the 60 years hes been in power, he must be one tough son of a bitch"

I agree completely, the owner does have every right to suspend him. However, if I was in his position, I wouldn't have suspended him. It's very subjective for me. To sum up my thoughts, I agree with the owner's right to suspend the manager, I disagree on the why.

That's actually pretty funny. Why was anybody offended by that?

Socialism is 100% incompatible with capitalism. The primary purpose of socialism is to abolish capitalism. You cannot claim to have a 'socialist government with elements of capitalism'. It simply makes no sense.

It also has nothing to do with free healthcare or welfare. Those are, by their nature, policies that would only exist in a capitalist economy. You yourself also claim to be a social democrat, which is a non-socialist ideology.

As The Shaw said, you're caught up in the whirlwind of disgusting red culture, and are not a socialist in the least.

This is just legitimately stupid. Your age is really showing.

Because they are the ones that tried to assassinate him!

Thank you for making that clarification. It is important to remember that socialism is a whole different economic system than capitalism. While there is a gray area, each side still falls specifically into capitalism or socialism.

Again, thank you. Socialism is an economic theory, not a social one. Welfare and healthcare only exist in an economy with privately owned products, services, or capital.

Sorry, but I agree with this as well.

Then they should learn from their mistakes and try to be better at assassinations in the future, instead of taking out their pent up frustration on this poor manager!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_socialism?
I'm also genuinely curious about what you call people who want commonly/publicly owned means of production alongside privately owned.(please don't say idiots or something like that...)

Yes you can, SOCIALISM IS AN UMBRELLA TERM. There are many different forms of socialism, of which many may not be considered socialism in its purest form. Just like Capitalism is an umbrella term, there are many varying forms of capitalism which exist with socialist elements.

How could they only exist in a capitalist economy? Please explain this to me, as I am obviously terribly misinformed. I am not a social democrat, I am a democratic socialist. They are different. Similar, but different.

Capitalism doesn't necessarily have anything to do with markets. It simply means that private property exists. There have been non-market capitalist states.

Public property exists in the status quo. It's not a socialist phenomena, it's the result of the existence of a state.

Stop saying that. That doesn't make sense. Socialism has an established definition and very clear priorities. Number one amongst those, and the lynchpin of whether an ideology can be considered socialistic at all, is whether or not private property is abolished. If this criterion is not met, then your ideology is not a socialist ideology. Period.

Yeah, and the one thing they've all got in common is the destruction of capitalism/abolition of private property.

What exactly is socialist about social democracy? What part of the social democratic agenda is incompatible with capitalism?

No, there aren't. You cannot mix capitalism and socialism. Socialism exists to abolish capitalism. That's the whole point.

It doesn't matter how its defined, because its defined by the people that follow it. The book definition was written years ago. I don't care what the book says. Socialism is a broad term that describes anything past a certain point to a certain point on the political left. Why are we having this discussion anyways? I want to abolish most private property, the only things that people would own are cars/appliances/furniture/etc.

Lol.

I am now a bird. What's that? I have neither feathers, a beak, wings, nor the ability to bear eggs? Doesn't matter, I define a bird as myself. It doesn't matter what the dictionary or everyone else in the entire fucking world says!

I appreciate that Kali understands the definition of socialism.

Yeah man, bird is an UMBRELLA term, your bird is just different then everybody else's, and those people are just ignorant.

For some reason every time I see you saying "lol" or something I hear a guy stoned off his ass laughing. Maybe you actually are high when you write it, or maybe it's the picture.

Have you ever hear a stoned guy laughing? It sounds exactly like a sober guy laughing...

No like the stereotype of a stoned guy laughing. It's complex bro.

Welfare is not a socialist concept. Welfare states are universally despised in all four schools of socialist thought as tools for providing a false sense of comfort that distracts the poor masses from the poverty and injustice imposed on them by their bourgeoisie oppressors.

Correct

Socialism still uses welfare.

However I have done some analyzing of exactly what I believe. I have come to the conclusion I may not be a socialist, but I cannot figure out exactly what ideology to call myself. To me, I believe it is completely new, because I believe in almost all socialist ideologies, I just don't believe in completely demolishing social classes and all private property.

Its a shame he was suspended. Fidel is a hero. The boss has no right to suspend a worker like this -- discrimination, I say!