World War II

i meant the Americans would have invade Germany and the Russians would of course counter attack the Germans puting an end to Hitler. i cold not find my post.

When planning to attack Stalingrad Hitler changed his original plan. He was originally suppose to take the oil fields to the south first. Then take the city and gain control of the river Volga. Yet he had grow impatient and probably arragant due to his sucess on the eastern front. So he split his forces in two to take both objectives in roughly the same time. This contributed to his defeat. For he failied to take the city's key points fast enough before enough russian reinforcements came in.

The biggest mistake made by the Germans in WWII was actually made prior to the opening of hostilities.

They learned how to use armor successfully on the Russian steppe while working with the Russians. But they massively underestimated the Russians while doing so. They trained side-by-side, worked out tactics together, and devised the concept of combined arms and blitzkrieg together. They honestly thought that Russia was stuck in the 19th century and couldn't possibly match the German industrial capacity. Little did they realize that Stalin was secretly building several divisions east of the Urals centered around the T-34.

And, somehow, the designers of German armor also seemed to have completely forgotten the terrain. German tanks have narrow tracks that mire down in the mud. Russian tanks have wide tracks to help overcome this. As was shown, this had a huge impact on Barbarossa. The key to armored warfare is maneuverability and, in this regard, the Russians had a decisive advantage. They were better prepared for the battlefield.

The Russians also streamlined the combined arms idea. Germany had light tanks, heavy tanks, personnel carriers, mobile command vehicles, and mobile artillery. All this equipment had to work together to be successful. The Russians had the T-34. Troops rode to battle on top of them and, with the 75mm cannon, were their own artillery support. Russian doctrine eliminated much of the need for localized command. This all worked to make Russian armored divisions much quicker to react to changes.

So when the German forces finally stormed across the border they faced a completely unexpected enemy. Not only did the Russians have tanks, they had LOTS of them. And, courtesy of the Germans, the Russians knew how to use them just as effectively. One could make the case that the Russians actually improved on the German armored tactics. Regardless. We all know how it turned out. Instead of a veritable cake walk to Moscow the Germans ended up in a long, drawn out slugging match. This lost them the war. If Russia would've folded as expected (or never been attacked at all until Britain was out of the game) Germany certainly could've won and Europe would be a very different place today.

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Hitler was really close to crack the RAF. He was only days away, but he grew impatient when he didn´t much result so he orderd that London should be bombed to try to crack the fighting spirit of the people. That mistake costed him the battle. Thats because now the RAF had time to rebuild their forces and later drive the german airplanes away.

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heres a question Churchil fan. Why did Churchil backstab King Peter of Yugoslavia who was in exile in England by suddenly shifting support from the Cetniks/Yugoslavian army leftover(guerilllas) who the government in exile supported to the communist partisans, thus resulting in a communist Yugoslavia which 'banished' the king?

I'm not a Churchill fan but I can answer this. It's because Churchill was a ponce.

This.

Poor Hitler never realized

Numbers>Tech

in a 2 sided war

Oh and What if Great Britain got invaded by Germany could they won the war or die down because of the epicness of the Soviet Military

No if the Germans kept advancing after winning the siege of Stalingrad then they didn't deserve to win Stalingrad. go to Moscow shift 2/3 of the forces west. Why? ohhh yeah, BECAUSE THAT WAS TWO MILLION TROOPS!!! that would overwhelm anything the allies had since these men were some of the best the Nazis had. Any resistance in France would be gone and the invasion of england would be underway within months. not even we would be able to stop this advance.

I guess this is somewhat related.

I'm currently taking History 12. It's a great course, and I'm enjoying myself immensely. I recently had a project to do on aviation during World War 2. This is one of my major interests outside of school, and I regularly read about it for fun. When it came to doing a school project on it, however, I found myself unable to focus and completely disinterested. I always knew subconsciously that I was only becoming disinterested in topics I previously enjoyed because they were presented in the context of school, but this has proven it once and for all. So fuck high school, I guess.

Anyone know when Yugoslavia was liberated? Or how big of a resistence they had?

Grazie

Hitler lost the war by invading the soviet union. Russia was never going to attack Germany. Britain would have never survived. If Japan never attacked the US at Pearl Harbour, and the United States never intervened, Hitler and the nazis would have easily defeated Great Britain, and then could have focused their entire military might in Russia, and might have defeated the Soviets then, having more resources and manpower to divert to that front. Also, Japan would have concqered most of Asia and even Australia maybe if they never attacked the US. Ultimately, the Us joining the war was the turning point just for the fact that they could easily outproduce all the countries combined, and became "the arsenal of democracy" after war was declared

The German's still had a good force in the west, easily big enough to hold off the English and an non-fully mobilized American army. Also, the Italians were still in the war, so taking care of the soft target was the most important. Italy out=less men in the war.

In the end, I think Hitler himself was the reason Germany lost WW2. German generals were more than capable of winning the war, however Hitler would constantly overrule them and replace veteran generals for unqualified ones. His biggest mistake was not listening to his generals in the Luftwaffe and order them to start bombing London and other cities instead of bombing RAF airfields. If he would have listened and kept hitting the RAF, he would have destroyed all of their southern air fields and made their reaction time longer and making an invasion more likely to succeed. I think Hitler was just to impatient and tried to do to much to fast.

Also, earlier you guys were talking about if a German invasion of Britain would succeed. I personally think it could have, again if Hitler would have kept up the presser on the the RAF and not get distracted with London. The main thing that would have made it successful was that after their retreat from France, the British had no tanks that could stand up against the German panzers.

They werent liberated, they fought for their own freedom and technicaly liberated themselves.