Libya Superthread

Its a bad thing for those who arent part of or suporters of the West, and especialy those who get screwed over because of "extend western economic and military hegemony.". i think thats what Che meant as a bad thing, it all depends from whose perspective youre looking.

Che is gay? :?

That's true, but Che's Canadian. He's been receiving the benefits of "Western imperialism" his whole life. As have I. The West has certainly screwed over people to get to where it is, but that doesn't make its lifestyle any less desirable. Political and personal freedom, equality under the law, acquisition of wealth and the social mobility to achieve it, and a dedication to innovation and invention are all core values of "Western" civilization. (And we come from the Romans. BAD-ASS.) Exploitation happens no matter what; might as well be the exploiters.

exactly, obviously Che dosent seem to enjoy all those benefits youre reasonable enough to understand what is done for you to have them. Or maybe Che feels like he dosent deserve them as it is ironic and hypocritical to belive you stand for freedom and all that, yet screw other places of the world over to keep your internal situation what it is. I know you probably wont understand this but english is my secod language so i cant really make it simpler to understand. I think youl know what i mean though.

Eh, hypocrisy only really applies if we intended to bring freedom elsewhere. Very rarely is that the case. Even if you want to call it hypocrisy, I'd certainly rather be a well-off hypocrite than a destitute pillar of integrity. In the end, I'm not here to live my life for the world. I'm here to live my life for me. That's why I can't see Che's wanting to go the DPRK as a serious decision; you can support an ideology all you want, but its very rarely worth sacrificing your well-being over. Mostly it's the same shit anyways.

Che is Gay + SuperMan?

on some cases a coverup story is saying that thry are bringing freedow to places where really they are just changing the government to be more profitable to them. If you have time you sould watch this: kinda relavent, dont be misled by the title. Its a bit bigger than that.

Death To American Imperialism! Death To NATO!

Gaddafi had been cut of almost entirely from his funds now, meaning he won't be able to pay mercenaries for much longer (if he even was, because of course there is still no evidence on that) So if America, France and Britain were to back off, which of course they won't because they know Gaddafi would win, the rebels would just be able to steamroll through Libya. But of course they wouldn't be able to because Gaddafi has opened up all weapons caches to any citizen willing to fight, man or woman, against the rebels, France and America.

Love to Libya from Serbia. They have experience NATO aggression first hand, and can account for it's atrocities.

Death To American Imperialism! Death To NATO!

Well yes, there’s a blockade, a revolution, and the whole World wants him dead. It’s no wonder that he’s running low on funds. All the same, he can take out loans and other such things to fund his mercenaries. Giving out guns was a last resort. He wants to either rule the nation, or see it burnt around him. You see, when you give tons of random people assault rifles, they could work towards stability, freedom, and other such things. Or they could go bat-shit crazy and start looting everything.
Libya will suffer for easily five years before the effects of giving tons of people guns stops. It was a last ditch effort. It wont work for him, but it’ll give him a little bit of spite to the next leader of Libya.
And yes, there are many Sub-Saharan Libyan Mercenaries. He might call them “Immigrated Soldiers” or something, but they’re mercenaries. No man would go out with automatic rifles and fire on his countrymen for peacefully protesting. At least not in large numbers. I mean, if you were a soldier under Gadaffi, would you open fire on your fellow Canadians for peacefully protesting? Certainly not. But you might open fire on Brazilians if you could get a bonus.

I don't even like Ron Paul, in fact I really dislike him and Alex Jones, but I suppose in this case I really respect him, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. The impeachment of Obama for this would be very good.

Yes, how dare NATO stop Serbia from slaughtering Bosnians.

I'm not exactly weeping sympothy because we did a few bombing raids to agression like that.

Death To American Imperialism! Death To NATO!

Gaddafi would get loans from where? They are under arms embargo from everywhere, no one is able to lend them any money, and printing more of his own will only reduce it's value which is meaningless. Besides, America gives everyone weapons all the time, just look at these rebels in Libya.

You do realize Bush invaded two countries, one with apsolutly no grounds at all, and he got re-elected.

There were atrocities by both sides, both filled by racial hatred, you know whats sick if you don't have sympathy for the many Serbian's and Serbian homes that were bombed by NATO? Was that the Bosnians were doing the same, but of course the Serb's did not fill the interests of America enough for America to illegally intervene on their side.

There already is a large hatred for Obama though, don't get me wrong I hate Dubya too. But I also hate Obama with a passion as well.

Death To American Imperialism! Death To NATO!

Borrow it from, I don't know, a Nigerian Prince or something. They don't care what the money is used for. America sells weopans all the time. I don't know if your refering to it via private business or from government agencies, either way its not to major. They'd just get them from somewhere else anyway.

Death To American Imperialism! Death To NATO!

America is the largest arms dealer in the world.

Also Nigeria is against Libya, Nigeria voted for the No-Fly zone.

NATO didn't intervien with any racial grounds, if that's what you mean. Maybe Bosnia had some, but it was probably just return for everything they did to Bosnia.

I don't exactly feel sympothy for the Nazi homes that were destroyed in WWII. Why should I feel sympothy for the Serbian homes that were destroyed when they invaded a nation without proper reasoning. I mean, do you feel sympothy for the Libyan Rebel familly that lost its Father who was out fighting against Gadaffi? And no, America would've stayed neutral if they loved Serbia or something.

Death To American Imperialism! Death To NATO!

America is the largest economy in the world. So that makes sense.

Yes, the Nigerian government is officially against Gadaffi. But it's not like they wont lend a couple million for the cause or something. Either way there's plenty of other corrupt nations to get money from.