Rome 2: Total War

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  1. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    I would say EB is more historically accurate. I do like the Roman rebellion events though. And besides, yo can get the RS2 battle environments and #'ed legions for EB.
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    Yeah. But I don't like the early start date for EB. To put it bluntly - I hate the early Roman units with a passion. They look naff and statistically they suck too, which is why I like that RS2 starts half way through war with Carthage and Hannibal rampaging in Italy, because you get to play with the early cohorts from the get-go. Plus RS2 has those later legionaries with the badass segmentata armour. People whinge about it not quite matching the time frame but at the end of the day, when I was a kid and I went to museums and saw re-enactments, they were all wearing the iconic uniform with the segmented armour and the rectangular shields, so those are the guys I want to play with - not those Polybian weirdos with their feathered helmets and beige tunics. And since there's a stunning lack of mods for the Pax Romana period in which they actually used that kind of equipment, RS2's my best shot. Plus I totally dig the 0-turn recruitment and the bigger map to go with it - in RS2 you often feel like you're fighting a large scale military engagement, with multiple stacks running around, forcing you to build fortifications, organise broad fronts to advance on and keeping a steady supply of reinforcement stacks moving along behind the main armies. The logistics of it is sometimes mind boggling, but I find it's far more rewarding and probably more realistic.

    But to each their own. If you want a much (MUCH) slower game set in an earlier period I guess EB's the thing to go for.
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    DOn't get me wrong, I think RS2 is a great mod, but I guess its just a matter of personal preference. I prefer the laid back gameplay of EB. Also, at times EB's logistics system can get pretty difficult (not near the scale of RS2) especially when you are shipping units to Spain and other areas by sea. One complaint I do have though is the Ptolemaic Empire usually beasts everybody in the east and the Seleucids fall just as fast.
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    The talk about Greece being divived up also got me thinking that the Gaul Faction should be gotten rid of and replaced by actual tribes from Gaul like the Helvetii, Aedui, and the Belgae. It would make the game much more acurate and challenging
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    Well they have the Aedui and Arverni in EB. Also, the rebel factions are strong, and will put up a fight, as they wield large armies. But yeah, in a Rome 2, a bunch of Gallic and Germanic factions is a must.
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    Exactly you could be like the real Caesar and actually have to barter, deal, and conquer your way to the top
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    The problem is, I'm pretty sure every nation represented in Rome TW had various tribes making it up.

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    Obviously the amount of regions you would need would be phenomenal, in order to even represent some of these individual tribes in every area of the Roman world.
    But also, no nation would then start off with more than a couple of territories at most, which could be problematic, as taking control of just the British Isles, for instance, would take a ridiculous amount of time.

    Perhaps it could work, I am simply pointing out how difficult it would be to do, not to mention the individual flags and faction leader needing to be created for each tribe, of which there would be several hundred.
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    We never said every or even most. Again, having one province factions would not be that unrealistic, especially if they make revolt risks higher for barbarian factions to symbolize tribes breaking free after being taken over and stuff. Again, I point you to EB's and RS2's map, to show you it doesnt have to be that detailed, as all you would have to do is fill in the rebel provinces in EB and RS2 with actual factions.
    Btw, what do you think of RTR VII. I think its pretty good but have never been able to get into it, mostly due to the horriffic battle interface.
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    I haven't tried it. Honestly I'm not that into RTW modding any more so I don't keep up with the new releases.
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    Its great and all, but the battle interface is atrocious. It is impossible to see exactly what you are clicking (like fire at will and special abilities and all that stuff) and is ahrd to see period.
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    Why would they do that? I mean, RTW has probably the most straightforward user friendly UI there is. I guess you could play with the minimal UI turned on in the .ini, but I don't know if that would help.
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    Yeah its pretty stupid.
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    What I would like most is a Total War with the ancient civilizations like Assyria and such. Something less Western-Europe based with more focus on Asia could work, as well. We could have massive battles with hundreds of chariots and it seems to me this is an age games as a whole haven't really explored much yet. Call me insane but I think Rome was already so good any sequel made to it will likely be a bit of a letdown.
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    If Gaul and Greece were to be divided up would the same go for Iberia and Germania
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    Yeah.
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    Anyone else have an idea for the next total war other than Rome and Victoria
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    I do.
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    WW1....its been gone over extensively. I have a couple ideas for Rome Expansions. They could have the core game, and then Rome 2 Egypt and Rome 2 Citystates. Egypt could go over the conflicts the Egyptian empire went through in the time of the pharaohs. Citystates could be about the Rise of Rome and the Greek Citystates, its map could include most of Greece, Thrace, the Balkans, central and southern Italy.
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    care to share any
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    Some of my ideas were in the quote I quoted in my last post.

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