The Second Titanic Will Apparently Be Built

Yes I did, I'm just stating what I think.

Are you nuts? There are not going to sink the ship.

And thats were your wrong, because they take the job of recreating the titanic very seriously.

They are adding a few additions like a movie theater so no.

See? They might as well have just called it the Titanic II and made a completely modern ship, at my house of course.

You do know that all those useless boiler rooms that were on the ship in 1912 are not needed now right? So you have plenty of space. Also, it is a modern a ship with an old look. There will still be a grand staircase, and the rooms will look very similar to Titanic and there will be four orange and black funnels.

By the way, I found Obama's Titanic:

You know, given German, and international laws at the time, the Holocaust was technically 100% legal. Does that mean that you think the Holocaust was justifiable too? - I mean, Hitler technically had no legal responsibilities to not murder those people. Just because something is or isn't law doesn't make it right, or wrong.

Just because he has no legal obligation to do it doesn't make him any less of an inhumane monster for not doing it, and quite frankly, if I see something wrong in society, if I see people being harmed, or if I see a major social injustice, it doesn't matter of it is legal or not. If it is wrong, I will oppose it - That is what separates capitalists and socialists. You guys allow evil to exist because it is a personal inconvenience to oppose it. We are physically willing to get hurt, and die to oppose such things.

A human who lacks a greater purpose other than getting rich, and spending their money on pety materialistic bullshit is a wasted life.

Because you know, the holocaust is totally equivalent to somebody choosing to spend his money on recreating the titanic.

I think you just proved my point. The makers said:" designed to be unsinkable because of the safety systems on board" but the media then and after said:"its build to be unsinkable"

no one ever claimed that the titanic was "unsinkable" the quote "practically unsinkable" was taken out of context.
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Meh. A rich man's plan to get richer. This isn't very different to what these guys do all the time, just this one is more visible. I'll be surprised if the ship is completed and actually sails.

Good old Donald Trump made a very serious proposal to rebuild the World Trade Center visually almost exactly as it was before, with modern structural upgrades. His proposal was rejected.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Tr...n/2005/05/19/1116361642894.html?oneclick=true

I totally get what you're trying to say, and partly agree with your underlying message, but you're too focused on your hatred of capitalism to see the bigger picture, and you devalue your own case by grossly exaggerating. A few facts:

Ending poverty in Africa will take more money than 30 billion. It will take more than 300 billion, or even 3,000 billion. And a lot more than just that amount of money - and equally large amount of time and effort. A single man, Warren Buffett, has already donated about $50 billion dollars of his personal wealth since 2004, and will be donating a further ~$50 billion dollars when he dies (which will probably be quite soon, as he is 80 and has prostate cancer). The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation has donated 34 billion since 1994. A majority of these personal donations went to Africa. On top of that, governments send foreign aid to Africa to the scale of over $50 billion every year. By your figure, poverty would have been cured many times over, but the fact is it has made little more than a dent.

The company that is ordering the ship isn't making tens of billions of dollars. Until recently it was making no money at all - it's a brand new company set up to plan and oversee the building of the ship, as well as generate funds. The company that will build the ship won't have a profit greater than a few tens of millions, if that. The ship will cost about $1 billion, footed by Clive Palmer and other financiers who want in on the project.

STRAWMAN ALERT!
Furtermore, you're going to compare a mass genocide to a person building a somewhat unnessesary boat. To be honest as a person with Jewish ancestry and relatives who died in the Holocaust, I'm offended by this comparison.
Thirdly, you are not some all knowing person that is able to decide whether or not someone has wasted their life. A person has a life, and can use it as they see fit, and you should not judge them for material success.
Don't do the whole "you and us" thing, you're really showing that you don't know what you're talking about. I actually like capitalism somewhat because it rewards the capable, but I'm still a socialist at heart. CAPITALISM IS NOT EGOISM.
ALSO, you forgot to answer my reply to you on the previous page...

He wasn't really comparing it. He was using the holocaust as an example and explaining the whole concept of responsibility. Maybe he should have used someone else, but he really does have a point.

You don't need to be all knowing to know whether or not a person has wasted their life. A wasted life is a life that accomplished nothing. That's pretty simple. A wasted life is a life focused completely on getting material gains.

Yes, that's exactly what you need to be. Two words: Butterfly effect.

What an arrogant and ignorant statement. Everyone accomplish something in life, whether you think it is worth something or not.(well mabye not stillborn babies...)

Lol, who are you to judge? It's impossible for a person to be completely focused on something their entire life unless they're autistic or something like that. You could not present me with a single case in which a person has "wasted their entire life" on the hunt for material gain.

The Butterfly Effect is a complex theory explaining how a small change somewhere can have large significance somewhere else. For example, a butterfly flapping its wings in South America can affect the weather in Central Park. How does that have anything to do with being all knowing?

No, not everyone accomplishes something. An accomplishment is leaving your mark on the world, whether that be through children, works of art, building something, influencing something, creating something. An accomplishment is something someone will remember about you after you die. You have accomplished nothing if you work as a secretary for your whole life, never having kids, never doing anything. Just working like a mindless robot.

Oh there are people like that. Maybe they redeem themselves in the last years of life, but overall their life was a giant waste of time.

Really? You answer your own question but continue to ignore it? We can't see the grand scheme of things. All of the people that have died have to have died for the world we live in to exist. All of the good and bad that's happened has to have happened for things to be as they are. We know that much. What we cannot even begin to pretend to fathom knowing is what the value of someone's life has been. Especially not with boilerplate classist bullshit.

Yet again, your ignorance is showing.

You aren't qualified to make that judgment. No man is.

700 children die in Africa, every 4 minutes. Life there is constant suffering, filled with civil war, mass rape, genocide, and mass-starvation. Hundreds of millions have died, and tens of millions of more will die this year - This entirely a result of western-colonialism, and economically sustained poverty. The holocaust was more than horrific, and one of the worst crimes in history. In my opinion though, at least in the greater picture, what is going on in Africa is much worse.

@ Iron - Got the figure from one of those charity organization ad's. Also, I assumed they were making tens of billions of dollars, because the owner is a mufti-billionaire, and they are a shipping company. My bad on there.

Edit: @Warburg - That's just my philosophical opinion on the matter.

I love how you ignored 90% of the arguments presented against you.

I guess I've spent too much time around you capitalists. Most of said arguments are personal-based, and have nothing to do with the topic at hand - I'm not in the mood for shit flinging right now.

You ignored the rest of the argument that YOU QUOTED! The main part of the argument of the post you quoted, you ignored.

We've had this whole Capitalism vs Socialism debate tens of times already - They always end up in exactly the same way. I don't think either side can think of much fresh to say.