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If another nation, say, one that America doesn't like passed the same thing, then would it be bad?

Edit: Pedro is a smart, cool guy, but I'm not going to base my beliefs or opinions on one of his posts. Anybody who denies this being scary, or who says that it isn't something to worry about is kidding themselves.

I think this may be the first time I agree with you on something. I'm a little skeptical about this being "no big deal", as sly said. But I don't know much about this, so who knows, maybe it isn't.

Not at all

I am not completely basing it off of his post. I heard the same exact thing as what he posted. It's just for emergencies so we could better respond to stuff like Katrina. You overreact to much to just about everything America does.

It is no big deal. All it does is allow America to better respond to disasters such as Katrina.

The spokesperson of American Fascism. Ladies and Gentleman, I give you Mr. Dennis Terry.
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Saw this earlier. I don't know what is more sickening, the pure and utter garbage this guy spews or the fact that people clap and cheer for him.

Bottom line it is all just so sick. I just had to share that.

This is a question specifically for pedro, but if anyone else has an answer, feel free to join in.

If this order only pertains to a national defense emergency, why do you think it is being issued now? That's my biggest worry, because I would expect most of this stuff to be the norm during a serious wartime, but not right now. I would expect the various executive departments to handle the US' resources during wartime, but I can't see a reason to specifically state that these powers would be specifically transferred to the Office of the President. I'm not going to be alarmist or anything, but it just strikes me as very unusual.

You know what shit like this really make me glad to be a Canadian. However i do really have to wonder what the hell happened to the U.S after 9/11. Mainly why the hell are the people of the U.S not doing anything about it?

Okay, that sounds reasonable. I wasn't totally alarmed by the order, I was just confused as to its purpose. Thanks for clearing that up.

Because its no big deal.

I think he may also be referring to the Patriot act, to which the answer is, its a neccessary evil.

I like how in the beginning he says god is Jesus.

Its one of my favorite parts really.

I feel that while the intentions of this order may be good, it leaves a bit of wriggle room that could be misused by another administration, similarly to the Monroe Doctrine.

For you, I am misinformed because I do not agree with your political ideals. The ideal of the the Western World being compose by two classes (bourgeousie and proletariat) is something borned from marxism. You are the one who is misinformed. Did you actually red the Communist Manifest? I red it and it says exactly the ideal which I just mentioned. Even thougth I disagree with the Communist Manifesto, I still read works like it, because is interesting. By reading it, I saw it was wrong. The problem of people like you is that you don´t read the works of those ideals you are against. Try to read Adam Smith, David Hume, Stuart Mill, Misses or Hayek.

The real assholes here are people who like Stalin and Mao. You know, like you.

Well, you speak like Obama never tried to pass "social benefits". And moderate socialism is not against the corporations. I live in a moderate socialist country ( Portugal, whre the two party system of my country is controlled by the Socialist Party and the Social-Democratic Party) and corporations still exist. Actually, in the last years, the government has been injecting many money in some corporations, when they were in the risk of getting broked.

No, I won´t. And there is no such thing as "democratic socialism". It is a "ideology" which can´t never exist, because in order to have socialism, you need to use coercion to redestribute to wealth (because many people are going to resist to the wealth redestribution) which is anti-democratic, because thos who disagree and do not want to redestribute their wealth, will have no chance, because of holy socialism (irony).

Humans are individualist by nature, and that is why every form of socialism that it was tried didn´t survived against the capitalism system. Even if it ends early or later, socialism will always fail.

You realize that Adam Smith believed in markets under the conditions of perfect equality right? He was a de facto socialist.

Moderate Socialism is nonsense, you cant be moderate in believing that the means of production should be owned in common by the workers and/or society as a whole.

Socialism has to be democratic to be socialism, the means of production cant be commonly owned in a non-democratic society. It makes no sense.

MILITARY DEFEAT = ECONOMIC FAILURE GUISE.

I actually have never read the Communist Manifesto. You know why? Because I want to base my own ideas off of what I see in my own life, and I am writing a pamphlet, or book, or whatever you want to call it to outline my new ideas on a completely revolutionary type of socialism. YOU are misinformed because you believe that Obama is socialist. Which is absolutely crazy.

The owner and creator of this website....our god emperor.....likes Stalin. Your on a site named after the guy. Way to make yourself look like an even bigger asshole.

Obama tried and succeeded in passing social benefits, yes. That's a good thing for the people of the US, and that in no way makes him even a tiny bit socialist. Portugal is not a moderate socialist country. Portugal is social liberal. Any kind of socialist country would have large control over major corporations. Moderate socialism means the government will control most corporations. And you speak like social benefits is a bad thing....
By the way, if you live in Portugal how can you presume to know what Obama is like? I have a feeling the press in Portugal might overblow his social benefits a bit...

Obama is not socialist. You are wrong. Obama is only called socialist by the most right wing people. There is a such thing as democratic socialism. You do not need to use coercion to redistribute the wealth because the wealth does not really have to be too distributed in a democratic socialist society.

Humans are coworkers by nature, if we were individualist we would have never formed communities. Humans have lived and worked together since the cavemen began forming nomadic tribes. Hell, back when we were apes we always lived together too, in herds (or whatever the relevant term for a group of apes is). Socialism has only failed so far, because socialism is supposed to serve the people. And how can you serve the people if the people don't have a HUGE say in government? Its impossible. That is why in my opinion socialism not only works with democracy, it ONLY works in democracy.

This debate is more entertaining than reality tv. Please continue.

Hardly says anything. Reality tv is generally shit.