Opening my eyes as an atheist

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  1. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    Funny how you believe in something that has no evidence, and then call my theory bullshit.
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    There you go again insulting me for believing in a God. And then you say that my God came from aliens. Now, tell me, HOW THE HELL CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE MY GOD CAME FROM?
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    Because there is as much evidence for it as there is against it.... to follow Coexistence logic.
    If you can make shit up, we can too!
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    I can provide evidence to support my claims. You have yet to do so.
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    All you've said so far is "God doesn't exist... because he doesn't". Now, if you look down and see anything between your legs, you'll actually give me some definitive proof saying God doesn't exist.
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    What exactly did I make up? You are telling me what my religion is. When in fact you don't know shit about my religion. What is it with atheists? Why do you always bring up religion? And why do you always laugh at our religions? WHAT IS SO WRONG ABOUT BELIEVING IN GOD TO YOU? I just don't get it. We never did anything to you but you insist on laughing at us. I would rather believe in a God than be alone and have nothing to look forward to after death.
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    That didn't help or cause, buddy.
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    I guess so but I was stating what I look forward to.
    Anyways what point is there in not believing in God? So you can laugh at religous people? What I meant was I would rather be able to pray to God than to be alone.
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    When I need proof for God existence, I just look around. But that is not "good" proof for you guys, nor we are talking of the same God. Also, I hope there is an afterlife (it doesn't necessarily mean Hell or Heaven), the idea that death=game over terrifyes me.
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    Life itself proves God's existence.
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    Again, you are claiming that a entity called "god" exists, not me. The burden of proof is on your side of the court. It's like the invisible unicorn. You cant disprove that its not there, but that doesnt mean that it is.... comprende?

    I presented a few pages back, how the ONLY source for the christian god is flawed in itself. nor verifiable written by eyewitnesses. I did post some links, showing that te bible was put togteher 300 years after Jesus death. I presented arguments why god is immoral, I presented evidence that raise considerable doubt that Jesus actually existed. Neither of you has commented on it, nor tried to refute anything i said about it. Not one of you even presented something that can be counted as a hint that there is a god. You just talk on and on, not relly saying shit.....

    @ General of Crathage

    As I said, I was raised catholic. I read the bible many many times. I studied original scripture of it during my studies (Ancient History major). I DO know your religion, pretty sure I know more about it than any of you "christians".

    EDIT: "Life itself proves God's existence."
    Thats a fools argument. I say life proofs the existence of an omniscent pudding.....
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    If you were Catholic you would know that the first gospel was written about 30 years after Jesus' death. Jesus is definately a real person. Are you denying facts? Use proper grammar and I might read your post. What point are you trying to make? An atheist saying he knows more about the Bible than a Christian. Lol. I know my religion at a super young age. Most people don't give two shits about religion when they are 13. I read the Bible about everyday. That is my favorite book in fact. What evidence do you have that proves God doesn't exist? Is there really something wrong with believing in God that you have to insult us and try to tell us we are stupid because we believe in God?
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    I think Kali (Requiescat in pace) once posted historical proof of Jesus existed (that, however, doesnt mean that he could make fire with his hands). Right now with your arguments you said you are proving that the christian God doesn't exist, but there are many religions, there may be another type of God.

    Edit: btw, my reply button don't work, this was for Big Mustache.
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    http://y-jesus.com/bornid_1.php
    He is a proven historical being.
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    Altough I'm far from being an expert theologian (I've never read The Bible lol), I think Jesus spread a doctrine of love, and even if you not believe in God or him being the son of this one, I think we should recpect him for that.
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    So when you use this argument, it's cool, but when we use it....
    And nice dodging the question again.

    Cool. Then the Declaration of Independence wasn't written because there was no one other than the supposed signers there to view it. Step it up man, you'll have to do better then that. And the fact that it was put together later has no bearing on their value: they are supposed to be the word of a perfect deity, and as such, if there is a God, the time at which they were collected together is irrelevant. The whole point is irrelevant in determining the existence of God anyway: you atheists seem to like to bring it up for no particular reason.

    I can't hear you, there's too much crap coming out of your mouth. Stop yelling that you don't have to prove anything, you're the one that started the argument, so it is on you to prove your side. And all this stuff about knowing more than the "christians" is a little childish. 1. I could have made your argument (which you have yet to make) for you, because I know what I'm talking about. If you want to be a little angsty teenage narcissist and rage against any form of possible authority, do it somewhere else. This is a serious discussion.
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    I know that the first gospel was written some 40 years after his death. Which doesnt refute my point at all, because it could not have written by Mark at that time. You know, assuming that Mark was actually the same age than Jesus. Of course, he was probably older.

    To know about the bible does not mean to read the bible. You have to read about the bible. If you do, and I know its hard because all you seem to do since you were 13 is reading one book, you will find out funny stuff. Like the childhood gospels of jesus. Where he defends villagers from dragons living in a cave nearby.

    Also, you will be able to notice, that besides a book where do not have an authorship from, there is no other hostorical evidence for any stories in that book, nor the existence of Jesus, Paul, Mary whatyounamethem.... Besides the fact that this time perios is one of the best covered by ancient historians (like Plutacrh, Plinius, Tacitus etc.).

    And finally, to attack someone for his grammar in his third language is weak. Try to focus on the argument, you didnt make any. Also, if you want to "grammar battle" me, you can come at me as soon as you en par with the amount of languages I speak (German, Polish, Englisch fluent, Latin and Italian acceptable, and I can read Ancient Greek)
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    You must be reading a different gospel than me. Or you just and idiot that decided to google it.
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    HA, you don't speak Spanish. I can say whatever I want and you won't understand. Mwahaha!
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    So are you implying.. That you, are.. a GRAMMAR NAZI?!?!?!

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