Opening my eyes as an atheist

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  1. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    Funny because he called our beliefs offensive, yet you are defending him.
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    But I don't care what he believes. That's what I just said.

    Why don't you get it?
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    But he is still allowed to call out his beliefs and defend them (regardless of if we are offended or not), but you do not grant us that right? oO Funny....
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    Man if only the Germans didn't lose alot of guys in WW2, Greatmustachio would probably be more moralized.
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    One side bringing evidence and arguments, the others evoking Goodwins law... gg everybody!
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    But i'm neutral =(.
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    Says the guy who calls my morals worse than that of Nazis....
    EDIT: And just because of my race too....
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    I was referring to the German Theists lost, and not returning to Germany to shift balance vs Athiests vs Thiests although I don't think the number could have shifted the balance.

    Just saying...
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    Thanks for refuting a fairly prominent international news media organization with a "because I said so". Great argument asshole.

    Oh, by the way, here's another article by an Indian news service, which is affiliated with another reputable international news organization, CNN.
    http://ibnlive.in.com/news/german-court-rules-muslim-pupil-cant-pray-at-school/207418-2.html

    Glad to see people are still able to openly practice their faith, athiest, Christian, Islamic, or otherwise in Germany, shining symbol of freedom...



    If your schools are so amazing compared to ours, can't you come up with a better insult than "you're dumb"



    Mmmm...
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,798450,00.html
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    Dude, legally prayer in school is forbidden in the USA too. Amendment 6, the seperation of state and church. No State institution should endorse a specific religion. Schools are state run.... do you actually know what you are talking about? You criticizing our school system which does what your system fails to do, despite the fact that its law....

    Plus, I didnt just say you are dumb, I said you are uneducated in comparison to others as is stated here.

    EDIT: What you fail to see is, that neither report says that islamic prayers are disallowed, while that of others are endorsed. So you and the articles are making a big fuzz about basically nothing....
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    Well, you gotta love theological debates. I didn't know that Chelsea was christian, it's good to know :p And by the way, Mustachio, you must suffered a very bad religious experience when you were a little boy.

    Christians, atheists? Bah! Just join to the deist bandwagon and have fun!
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    Nope, was brought up catholic.... well okay, that can be counted as bad experience. But really, I just strted thinking about stuff when I was 15 or 16 or so. Pretty much figured out that somethings didnt add up, or were obviously not true.
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    You can have prayer in schools, as long as it is not initiated by the school. I see people pray all the time of their own accord. Also, comparing the education systems of different countries is nearly pointless. Each nation has different models, different tests, and different eligibility for those tests.

    That, and the United States has, roughly, a greater population then the top 16 countries combined. So then statistically it should have a lower score average.

    And, no offense meant, just doing this to improve your English, you were looking for fuss in your edit, not fuzz.

    Edit- And even if you believe that you have adequately disproved Christianity, you have yet to even try and debunk the myriad of other religions that are held in the world.
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    The beauty is, i dont need to. The "burden of proof" is on the side making the claim. In this case, those who claim there is a god. If you, by chance, think its the other way around, I first want you to prove to me that the other gods does not exist, because you claim your god is the only true god ;)

    You see?

    Also, teh "greater population" argument is flawed. Its not that there is a bease number of education that gets divided through the populace. Level of Education can be measured, regardless of population. Also, "more than the top 16 countries" is largely blown out of proportion, since Germany alone has nearly 1/3 of the population of the whole states....
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    Personally I believe in the ancient alien theory.
  16. CoExIsTeNcE LeonTrotsky in Disguse

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    I seems to me that since you started this debate, then you yourself are making the claim.

    I do believe that I have yet to claim anything regarding my own religious beliefs. But if you wish to pull that thing where you just turn the question around rather then answer it so be it.

    A deity that you could not disprove or prove seems to be the appropriate way to end this debate in the way they are all ended, with and, "We will find out when we are dead." What if god, or the creating entity, created the universe, and then just decided to let it go, with no interference. While there may be no proof to this go, there would also be no way to inevitably prove it regardless of whether it exists or not. So, we must conclude that no definite law on the existence of a god can be reached.

    There is, however, an increased number of those occupying the average. Also, a large population would strech the funds used for education more then a smaller population. And the US does have a larger population then the first 16 countries/cities due to the fact that German is 19th on the list.
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    If I have no evidence that a random undiscoverred animal in Siberia exists, then I should presume it doesnt exist, no? Then why should it be different for questioning the existence of God?
  18. LeonTrotsky Well-Known Member

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    I might be reading you wrong, but what Coex was trying to say was: if we cannot know if there is another species in Siberia, we must treat it as both existing and non existing.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schrödinger's_cat
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    Hmmm, interesting.
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    That is complete bullshit.

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