Israel and Iran - Will we see air strikes soon?

I'm saying Israel is a bigger danger to Iran than Iran is to Israel. In terms of whom is a bigger threat to peace in the Middle East it is unquestionably Israel over Iran.

Ahmadinejad uses the phrase "Zionist regime" to refer to the state of Israel. Because Iran does not actually recognize the state of Israel. The meaning is exactly the same.

U.S, china, and russia among other powers are mature enough to understand that Nukes are very dangerous.
Letting iran have a nuke is like giving a todler a shotgun or something. There just not mature enough.

So basically, you are saying that Arabs/Persians are less mentally developed/Inferior? Persia/Iran has existed thousands of years before the US, so I'm left to assume that they know how to run a country.

Heads up - Just because somebody disagrees with you does not make them stupid, or immature, or an inferior human being.

not inferior just missing a few too many bolts before they can be respcted by the international community.

For example. They sent the revolutionary guard {i think its called} to help the syrain army kill its rebels.
The FSA being part of the milatary at one point but defected cause the goverment kept breaking up protest with
live ammunition. why would you ever support these people by sending in milatary experts to help them fight rebels? i can
understand help negotiate but kill each other when the syrain regime is obviously at fault? that's why i look at iranian regime as
being to immature and genocidal to have nukes. besides we have oo fricking many with the 3 great powers alone.

EDIT: why do you call yourself a "anti-patriot"?

Let's say you're right, that Iran really is threatening Israel. In reality, Israel is the only country of the two who's threats mean anything substantial:

(Noam Chomsky)

This basically sums up what I feel.

So you actually think Iran will randomly throw their nuke somewhere?

Immature and genocidal? Like when the US dropped two nukes on innocent civilians?

that or give it to some extremist group so that they can radiate NY.

and have we ever used it again after we found out how bad these nukes are? yes actually we
sold our nukes to sudan hussein and then declared war on him just to get the nukes back. yep bet
you didnt know that secret eh?

Did you just say we sold nukes to sadam husseing and invaded to get them back? *FACEPALM*

If we sold nukes to Saddam why didn't he just nuke Iran or U.S forces.

Pretty sure we didn't do that. We did however help him make deadly toxins and gave him weapons in the form of 'farming equipment'.

Seriously? "We want to get rid of Israel so we'll nuke a random US city, 'cos that'll surely help!".

Vietnam and the Middle East hardly were decent targets for them, were they now?

@3man
0k, first off - You do know that Al Qaeda just announced their support of the Syrian rebels, right? And that Al qaeda are also heavily opposed to the Iranian government?

2nd off - Iran are quite well respected in the international community. They have just as many friends as enemies.


3rd off - No, you never sold nukes to Saddam. You sold some chemical agents to them, none of which qualify as WMD's.


4th, and regarding the anti-patriot thing - I hate my shithole of an inbred country, as do I hate nationalism. I have no doubt that if we (Australia) were in control of the world, things would be much worse, even than they are now.

No just no.

Well, alright. Respected is the wrong word.
But they do have many more friends/neutrals than the US credits them with.

Even that may be an overstatement.

I can't be absolutely sure for Russia, but I know that China regards them as they do everyone else: a necessary evil to further their own gains. China does LIKE anybody.

1. al-quida is not alone and there are many others willing to do it.

2. he made a anti-Semitic speech and said he wanted to destory the zionist regime. {As kali said that is interchangeable with israel}
you cant respect that if your sane or your on the same page.

3. that was my attempt at sarcasm. i was trying to show how that we don't drop fat boy one people because coffe fell on our
lap.

4. patriots and nationalsim are not the same in my eyes. an just cause Australia sucks {if they do as a country i have no fricking idea}
that's no reason to hate it. besides i as an american think my country is great we have faults but i just love it. Doesen't mean if
we americans or if anyone at all was in charge of the world it would be better cause it would not. So don't fret too much if like kinda sucks
you still gotta live a long life before god picks you up {or science}.

I have no idea what the hell you just wrote. But if I understood the first part right is that you say you should not hate a country because its government is doing a terrible job at making you happy, yet you should because you've been born on a piece of land of which a piece of paper says it's part of that country?

@ 2 - Anti zionism does not equal anti semitism. I want to make this clear, so I'll go a bit more in depth into this now - I do not like Iran. Their government is an unpopular fundamentalist dictatorship. I am heavily opposed to the idea of invading/bombing them, though. In my opinion, the only democratic approach would be to allow, and assist the Iranian people in overthrowing their government. This would be done by funding, and supplying of revolutionary groups by the entire international community, and absolutely without military intervention. In a country where 70-80% (So I hear) of the nation is opposed to the ruling party, this should not be a hard thing to accomplish.

On my first point though, I openly call myself an Anti-Zionist. This does not neccesarily mean to me that I am opposed to the right of existance for isreal, but rather the actions, and attitude taken by modern Israel. I am also heavily opposed to Antisemitism, and it would be hypocritical not to be, considering just about every famous communist ever was a Jew. (Including marx, engles, and lenin)


On 4, I believe Patriotism to be a means of control. No country is better than any other, just that some have been lucky enough to be located in areas of high natural resources, or have a united culturebase.

Oh, and on the nuke thing - Japan was already going to surrender at the time. The reason the US did it was because the USSR was planning it's own invasion of Japan, in a short amount of time.. Rather than risk a North/South Japan, or even a Soviet-controlled Japan, they did what they did. The fact that they were dropped on two civilian centers is inexcusable, they could have easily dropped them on a military target, or even in the middle of a forest or something. The Japanese government would have still seen how powerful the bombs are, and would have surrendered in the same way, albeit a couple of days/weeks later.