CAPITALISTISM STUPID, OR STUPID AND PSYCHOTIC?

And what of the Philosopher? The Artist? The Historian?
At the very least, student loans curb the opportunities people can have at college. You yourself said they must have a high paying field to be able to do so.

We're not discussing the petty bourgeoisie, either.

No, he stole the majority of his money from his workers, and then his daughter sucked it up like the leach she is.

I meant like prior savings, help from family members, etc. Anything. Not necessarily welfare.

I'm sure a single room apartment could be under 900 dollars, but not one for ~3 people. Unless your saying that a family of four or five should cram into a single bed. Then, good luck.

My anarcho-syndicalism brings all the workers to the yard and there like this socio-economic is better then yours, I could teach you but I need to expropriate.

And then a capitalist bought the yard and put everyone into wage slavery the end.

My mom has $14 in her savings account...

Erm, ok.

The historian can become a professor or a teacher. If you honestly expect to get anywhere in the way of the arts, you would be an idiot to go to college for just that to begin with.

Explain how he "stole" it.

It had 2 bedrooms as a matter of fact.

Of course they wouldn't be wage slaves without the wage slaver. The hotel wouldnt be built because the capitalist class holds a near monopoly on capital. Its insanely hard for workers to start cooperatives because of capital costs. Under the dynamics of any direct socialist economy, these arguments would be null and void, workers would make hotels and they would all have a equal share, get equal pay, or operate under a gift economy. Its exactly the same as the chattel slave owners of the 1700's USA saying if they didn't force those black slaves to work they would not have such a high quality of life compared to Africa.

The first part of my paragraph is still correct.

I disagree. I think an artist or a philosopher provides equal value to society that any other proffesional. Of course, it may not be an immediate or a tangible value (I really don't know how to explain this in English lol).

Please explain how an artist provides the same amount of value to society as say a highschool math teacher.

I think I know what you're trying to say. The artist has value, but no immediate value. One could argue that their value is greater, but only in the extreme long term

A cultural value. But meh, culture is extremely overrated, useless thing. It's hard to explain per se, I find harder to explain in another language.

Do it in Espanolo and use Google Translate!

Yes, Capitalism let's people choose where to work, if there's any jobs for them to choose from. Capitalism let's people choose not to use their system, if they want to pick berries in a shack on some God forsaken commune in the desert. Capitalism doesn't force people to take any form of debt, if they don't want to get any proper education, permanent housing, or much mobility.

It's different than child sex slavery, but it's not exactly freedom and sunshine.

I never said that in the slightest. I said if people want to become an artist or a philosopher and have a nature ability to do so they should not be held back by capital.

I'm by no means Anarchistic in the slightest. Lenin Cat would say I need to listen to him more.

If not for him, someone else would've done it. He merely stumbled upon the opportunity first. It is ridiculous to think that without him thousands of people would simply be unemployed.

Well that's counter-intuitive. Also it's more $600-$800 a month for a two room apartment.
http://www.apartments.com/search/?query=Tucson, AZ&bedchkvalue=2&stype=CityStateOrZip
Anyway, that's still a huge section of your income for a poor family.
The Average Household Income in America is $45,000. Keep in mind, this includes things like doctors and professors, although not the super rich. It's even lower for most truly poor families.
$45,000 divided by 30 months = $~3,500 a month.
Now, assuming this is a Nuclear Family (1 working father, 1 mother, two children):
3 room apartment where you wont get shot -> $750 a month

food per person -> let's call it $40 a week, because they're packing light -> $40 x 4(weeks in a months) x 4(people in family) -> $640 a month
The average cost for auto insurance -> $120
Already we're at about $1,500, over half the income.
Not to mention, furnishing, clothing, any sort of love interest, telephone, debts payments(everything from student loans to car loans), deposits (which you may or may not get back), internet, television and all other sorts of entertainment, say, video games and cable...

Not to mention unexpected costs like auto repairs and medical payments, or even insurances like fire insurance or health insurance. Fuck if they have anything saved for College.

No, he can't because there's incredibly few jobs of that nature.

Oh ok, so cultural value is worthless? If it doesn't turn a quick buck, it's not worth doing? I'm sure that's exactly what our Founding Fathers had in mind.

He never toiled to earn his millions. He never lifted the bags up the stairs, never unclogged the toilets, never meticulously logged check ins and outs of every customer.

His workers did it all. Sure, he may have put in more effort than the lone accountant, but his workers combined deserved the majority share.

About the Hilton stuff, let's also said that when the "empire" began it were another times.

Was that a reference to philosophy?