US Gun Laws

Indeed, mostly, the police aren't seen as civilians, heck, some even go as far as not consider them human...

True, but even though air planes are the safest way to travel, I'd still like them to keep their safety measures.

Everybody say, FUCK THE POLICE!

More like fuck town cops.

I bet you have a hidden adoration for police authority. Seeing as most of the Communists on the forum are generally socially awkward introverts judging from your behavior on the forum, the only thing that is stopping you from being crushed to a pulp by drug addicts and gang members is the police. You really have no right to say "fuck the police". The only people who have the right to say that are Iranians, North Koreans and other legitimately oppressed victims of police brutality. The American police, in general, are too lenient. They need to beat some sense into you silly reds more. What is there without the police? "Local militias"? Bullshit. I'm sick of Commie buzzwords. The police are a necessity.

The police in Britain have no guns. The public have no guns. You have to go through some rigorous testing just to get your hands on a replica or BB gun. And it works. Other nations should follow suite. I don't care about gun-toting Americans, the laws put in place regarding firearms are outdated and have shown time and time again to be lethal. Tens of thousands of people die as a result of it. What about the amount of gun-related deaths in the UK? Four times lower.

I personally think that the laws are fine the way they are. We have so crazy people out there that really just shouldn't have their hands on a gun.

I no the is never any shootings in america.
Not

What?

I'm guessing he meant:
"I know, there never are any shootings in America.
Not."

Agree completly with the first part, but not with the second. The US is not the UK, we have a completly different culture, a different demogracphic situation, and not to mention we are way bigger then you. I support putting some restrictions on gun ownership, like no one should be able to own an RPG, but who are you to say I shouldnt be able to go out an by a handgun for self defense or maybe I am a competitive shooter or maybe i just want to go hunting, how can you tell me I can't do that? Plus In the US at least, most gun related crime are commited with Illegial weapons, so restricting gun ownership will do little to curb gun related crime.

Of course there is 0% chance of that being false. Also, what is with you and assuming people have "hidden" bullshit? For instance, you called me a closet racist a while back. Turned out not to be true, big surprise. I doubt what you say about LeninCat is true either.

You must know absolutely nothing about the Communists on the forum to think they are socially awkward introverts.

Not only would gangs and drug use decrease drastically because they'd all starve to death, but they'd all get shot if they were out killing people. Sure the ideal Communist system may want to keep people alive in prison, but it wont be tearing up when some gang members get shot in the face a few times.

Anyway, local militias would fuck up any gangs.

There's plenty of cases of police brutality in America and the UK. Sure they aren't typically massacring people, but it seems that someone dies every year of police failures.

I'm not sure how to respond to someone who's saying there needs to be more police brutality. I didn't know anyone was stupid enough to even joke about it.

What exactly do you dislike about the idea of Local Militias and a Civilian Police? Sure it will have its faults, but so does a normal police.

What are you talking about?
First of all, most people who die by guns in the US are suicides. And of course the number is "four times lower" in the UK.

There are 62 million people in the UK
There are 307 million people in the US

Simple statistics show that you, of course, should have 5 times lower gun-related deaths than the US. However, as you point out, you actually have only four times lower gun-related deaths. Proportionally, that means that you actually have MORE guns related deaths per person. If anything, you just gave evidence that gun restriction laws don't work.

I mean by saying the is allot of random shootings on campuses and stuff.

Actually the proportion(that would be "per 1000" or something) of gun-related deaths is a lot higher in the US than in the UK. I pretty much agree with the rest of your post though

You would of made a good point, if you mentioned gang violence, but you mentioned colombine, and now you lost your point.

Even with restricting gun laws, gangs can still get ahold of them.

The same goes for softdrugs, why are those illegal then?

I reckon this is somehow relevent, and definately goes in favour of gun control; the reason gun restrictions don't work seems to me to be because of the places where there aren't any restrictions.
I've been to Shrewsbury lately, which is annoying, 'cos this guy had a couple of pretty nice guns; there was one with a torch attached and eveything!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-16501682

Americans who make the law at the moment are old as fuck and view soft drugs as evil and corrupting society and think if we legalize them then will turn into a nation of cocaine hippies.

Because softdrugs have little to no real application in such a way that it benefits society to have them legal than the negative averted when they are illegal. There are plenty of other, legal drugs that can be used for the same purposes that illegal drugs are. If you need a doctor's signature to get them, but cannot present a solid reason for needing them, then, you didn't need them to begin with.

Once again, guns have the sole purpose of hurting and killing people. That's beneficial? Smoking is legal, alcohol is legal, guns are legal, softdrugs like marijuana are less dangerous than all three.

You and Shaw would get along so well.