Question to the Christians

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  1. Toast Well-Known Member

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    An opinion is an opinion, and I am of the opinion that Jesus was a gobshite. If that's too much to handle, forgive me.
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    There is a difference between being unbiased, and having an opinion. I can have the opinion that you're a dick because a guy you didn't know at all killed someone, somewhere, but it is unbiased to say that, given you don't know the guy.
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    Jesus purposely incited rebellion in the Roman Empire, and threatened people with his God. The Romans were known for being tolerant to other religions, however, Jesus spread the word that there was only one God and all who didn't follow that God would recieve eternal punishment.
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    Did he fuck. Seriously, provide me evidence of these claims and then I will listen to what you have to say.

    Same applies to you, cuntnugget.
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    Wait, since when did we need evidence for anything that Jesus did, or anything related to that?

    Anyway, if you look at the Romans' views on religion, they were very tolerant, and were known to adopt other gods into their Pantheon. However, the Abrahamic God initially wasn't. Why? Because it was claimed he was the only one, and people should follow him instead of the Roman Pantheon, causing instability in the Empire. He was trouble for the Empire, and was executed.

    And Jesus was most likely a virgin, so no, he didn't fuck.
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    "Render unto Caesar what is due to Caesar, and render unto God what is due to God."
    And I suggest you read up about Rome's persecution of the druids.
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    +2 sins

    Jesus did indeed shitstir. I remember being taught a tale in primary school in which he kicked a table over and yelled.

    There were very little problems caused by religion within the polytheist Roman Empire. Monotheism incited a lot of inequality and segregation. I don't see how you could debate against that.
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    There was something i read long ago about a kid Jesus who turned this guy into ashes for pumping into him, Jesus needs to work on his anger situation.
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    The Romans persecuted the druids because they were, quote, "alleged to practice human sacrifice, a practice abhorrent to the Romans".

    Taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_persecution_in_the_Roman_Empire
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    Well, that was their excuse. They also persecuted the Cult of Bacchus for the same reason, despite there being absolutely no evidence that any human sacrifices took place.
  11. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Ironically there is very little record of the Druids practicing this, the druids were exterminated by Caesar's lust for power and to quell the Gaulic population.
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    For one, I wouldn't call myself religious just agnostic. The reason I am arguing this point is because it pisses me off when people throw baseless accusation. I honestly can't see how Jesus could be portrayed by anyone as evil. He promoted peace and love in a land that had been at war for thousands of years. Monotheism was not new either, Judaism (or whatever it was back then) had existed for thousands of years and the Romans were well aware of this when they decided to concquer Judaea. And for the record, the Roman Empire was Genocidal and they wanted to assimilate the rest of Europe to "civilization", so I don't see why you keep trying to portray them as a fair empire.
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    "Submit to our God, pledge all of your life to serving Him, or be damned to a fiery cesspool of torture and rape, fire and brimstone"

    Totally loving. Plus, the Jews didn't have raving public speakers inciting rebellions everywhere they went. Romans still hated them, though, and rightly so, being monotheists. They were very fair for their time period.
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    I call myself agnostic as well. They might be baseless accusations, however, the life of Jesus as portrayed in the Bible is based off baseless statements that are scientifically impossible, yet there are people that blindly follow them. While I don't doubt him preaching peace, love and all that good stuff, it's not the only thing Christianity is about.

    While the Roman Empire did bring and even force their culture onto others, quite a few "barbarians" were eager to adopt the Roman ways.

    I think they believed the followers of Bacchus did a lot of crazy stuff, but no human sacrifice. It is indeed suspected they persecuted them for other reasons, I misread that. As for the druids, I keep reading different accounts, some claiming or suggesting that they did practice human sacrifice (using Wicker Men, which happens to be an awesome Iron Maiden song as well...sorry 'bout that, going off topic here), and other refuting it. The only complete source seems to be Caesar, and having translated several of his writings, I know he's pretty damn biased. Other writers mentioned them and their practices as well, but all are known to show bias to either themselves, the Romans or whomever issued the writing.
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    Since we can't edit in this poll I am locking this thread, the OP requested it.
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