I would like to put forward a formal complaint

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  1. Kalalification Guest

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    There is a marked difference between chic and homosex, I'll have you know.
  2. Romulus211 Proconsul

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    Some people obviously cant take such refined sarcasm as Kali, In fact I admire it. I wish one day my sarcasm will be as mind blowing as the user Kalalification is, In fact i would call my blind admiration, love, if i did not absolutely detest him.
  3. Lenin Cat Well-Known Member

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    I find Kali's remarks about Wobblies and socialists in general to be hate speech. Its intended defamation of a group of people to claim they lack person-hood.
  4. JosefVStalin El Presidente

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    This is true, but are you obligated to not be a complete dick.
  5. LeonTrotsky Well-Known Member

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    That's why I'm pushing for some kind of etiquette rule: http://josefvstalin.com/threads/forum-etiquette.5258/
    Not to make sure everyone is sunshine and rainbows to each other, but so we're not dicks all the time.
  6. Skyicewolf City States Godmod Patrol

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    I think Kali's being kind of rude, and a grammer nazi.
  7. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    I think it is safe to say that there are more people that dislike Kal than people who like him. Sorry bro.
  8. Skyicewolf City States Godmod Patrol

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    Should there be a punishment?
  9. BurGroBro Well-Known Member

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    To sum up Kali
  10. Bart (Moderator) NKVD Channel Maintainer

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    Wait, I think this is getting too far. Just because Kali sometimes says stuff a bit too rude, doesn't mean nobody likes him. I like Kali, and I feel lots more people!
  11. Unillogical Ex-Admin

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    Sure, I like lots of people, but I will always side with the person I think is right.

    Just taking this outside of the forum into my life there are times when I'd side with someone whom I might either actively dislike (though these people are incredibly rare) or perhaps generally I would have some sort of issue with over a friend if I felt the friend was in the wrong.

    The same is true here, while I don't have a strong relationship with any member of this forum I like Kali I respect him most of the time however, I feel that he is behaving in a way that is "dickish" or more specifically out of order. I find it unprofessional as a staff member. So me being vocal in my disapproval of this or any issue is not a statement of how I feel about any user at any point but how I feel about a particular action or actions taken by said user.

    Ultimately regardless of what happens, if people feel that any user is acting in a negative way, that user will be ultimately shunned. Look at Napoleon, very few people actually want him back, some are indifferent but the majority would prefer he stay away.
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  12. Bart (Moderator) NKVD Channel Maintainer

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    I know, but this is just exaggerated. When people start to say that he's a Nazi (Grammar Nazi's are also Nazi's) or that there are more people who dislike him than like him, it's going too far. When I hear people say that he shouldn't be a Mod anymore or even be banned, it's just going too far! I have no complaint about people picking a side, sure. But when you start snarling that more people dislike him than like him (you didn't do that, but that was one of the things I was referring to), it's getting ridiculous.
  13. UnitRico Well-Known Member

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    Taken from Urban dictionary, the definition of the term "Grammar nazi" (I ironically typed "grammer" when searching this, I quickly corrected myself. Also, I don't know if Urban Dictionary is such a viable source, but it was one of the top searches in Google, so I took it).

    While I agree that people should try and take the time to carefully write up a post that is easily readable, and should at least put some effort in punctuation and such, Kali tends to take this to the extreme sometimes, disregarding the entirety of the post because he thinks a single word is spelled incorrectly, and calling out the poster on it in a dickish way.

    Of course, when a post is filled with errors, and shows no use of capital letters or punctuation whatsoever, I will not read it, or try and explain to the poster that it's very hard to follow his story and find his overall point, and ask him to try and fix the post a bit. However, stomping over him because he made a typo or misused a word is an exaggeration, and I find it nothing less than fair that people can file a complaint in which they tell how they feel about this.

    In this case, I don't think Soviet has been unreasonable, he hasn't demanded Kali to step down as a mod or be banned, he just said he felt attacked and uncomfortable, which I can understand.

    Now, don't get me wrong, I respect Kali and his ability to write down well-thought out posts and arguments, although from time to time it seems like he's acting quite arrogant, looking down on those that don't share his personal views. Apart from this, I've no reason to see Kali as a responsible mod who's doing his (voluntarily) job just fine.
  14. Bart (Moderator) NKVD Channel Maintainer

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    Well, call me a Grammar Nazi, but I do believe people should use proper grammar and spelling wherever and whenever possible. On the other hand, though, Kali should indeed bring stuff more subtle.

    Also, I wasn't talking about Soviet himself, but the discussion here in general.
  15. UnitRico Well-Known Member

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    I agree, people should put as much effort as possible, but nitpicking on every tiny detail is just not needed. Whenever the point of a post is clear, small errors shouldn't matter, and even though there's no problem with kindly telling someone they've made a mistake, and then going back to the topic at hand, rudely saying they're utterly wrong and disregarding the entirety of the thread isn't the way to deal with it, imo.

    As for Soviets case (I know, you didn't reference it yourself, but I'd like to bring it up anyway), he had an explanation for his grammar errors, and even admitted he made them, and wasn't especially offensive in the original post in this topic, and for that I think he doesn't deserve the treatment he got.
  16. Bart (Moderator) NKVD Channel Maintainer

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    What I do find ironic, though, is that he still doesn't capitalize "I".
  17. UnitRico Well-Known Member

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    Maybe it's habit. He isn't the only one who doesn't use capital letters.
  18. D3adtrap www.twitter.com/d3adtrap | Mr. Choc: Coco Fruits

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    Unless you can prove that Kali is targeting you, this complaint has no weight to it. If you do find "prove" I will take this under investigation, but again, this does not guarantee anything.
  19. Karakoran Well-Known Member

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    If they had evidence, why would they need a detective?
  20. BattalionOfRed Mr. Fred Battaliono

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    You see, the thing is, this young man tends to have a pattern in just about every thread he is heavily involved with.

    He seems to 'target' someone, but that isn't quite the case, he has a tendancy to create circles in threads and piss a few people off at one time per thread.
    To me, this is intolerable, considering that this forum should be for discussion, not random banter.
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