Vikingrs - Barbarians or Civilized

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  1. Redclaw New Member

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    What do you think? Do you think the Vikingrs were some uncivilized Barbarians or do you think they were civilized. Your opinions?
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    There's no such thing as "civilized" and "uncivilized".
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    They were the only force mental enough to defeat the rampaging ginger hordes of Caledonia. They've got to have something going for them.
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    They are the same as any European tribe. Many considered them selves civilized.
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    I think that the fact that they built ships in which they were able to sail over the Atlantic Ocean or to Constantinople made them more "civilized" than most of the tribes on the European mainland. Maybe civilized is the wrong word
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    In deed, may I also point out that they are most famous from their (early) medieval times, not ancient.
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    Axes and awesome ergo, they are awesome.
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    What would you expect from a person with a image of a Confederate, in it´s signature? :)
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    Well they did have bath houses and the likes, advanced burieal rituals, and amazing smithworks. It sorta depends what you take as "civilized". If you look past all the rape and pillaging then sure they were definatly civilized.
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    Whatever the were, they were pretty badass and pagan.
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    I honour the man, not the cause the Confederacy fought for
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    Well and i think there is such thing as "civilized" and "uncivilized". I think that the SS in WW2 for example was a bunch of uncivilized morons because they thought of themselves as the "Herrenrasse" and that they can blame the jews for everything bad in the world, and somebody who thinks this isn´t able to think clearly and has no clear mind and that in my eyes is uncivilized.
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    The only thing they did was to rape & pillage. And when it comes to what they had -as I pointed out- is simply the fact that they were there during medieval ages, not ancient.
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    Don´t feel offended. It was just a joke.

    Robert E. Lee was not even pro-slavery.
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    well they were master saliors and fishermen, they "colonized" Normandie. What set them appart from most of europe is the fact that they could not farm as efficently because of the climate. They were far from uncivilized compared to the rest of europe at the time 700-1066
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    I would disagree, tho they did have great sailing skills, but you cannot compare the technology nor wealth to other European powers. I wont go to argue on who is more civilized, for its such a grey area.
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    They were also great merchants and had great influence in some cultures in Europe. Normandy is just one example
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    Mediterranean merchants were so jealous
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    well the biggest european powers were wealthier ofcourse, hnece the viking's stealing from them, and demanding tribute. But technology wise the vikings were not behind, well of course they were behind in some areas like farming sewage disposal, etc. stuff they had no need to know or figure out. In metall works they were top noch aswell as they designed the most effective ship of theire time period (not a simple task), Also they were quite accomplished in medcin in comparison to most european countries, although this could be depated as they got allmost all the knowlege of medicin from the Arabs.
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    Not arguing with that and its also funny that most europeans would durn medics as witches (lol)

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