Rebirth of communism and the left

Discussion in 'The Political/Current Events Coffee House' started by 3man75, Jun 22, 2011.

  1. 3man75 Well-Known Member

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    Ive heard recently that south american with influnce from venezuela a communist country has spread communism around south america.
    If this is true which many radio shows here in south florida say that what could happen in the american stage, canada, and the rest of the
    world? Could this mean a second cold war or god-forbid WW3?
  2. 0bserver92 Grand King of Moderation

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    You've been listening to wackos then as that won't happen anytime within the next 100 years if at all.
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    No. Just no.

    Venezuela is not a communist state (which as I'm sure most people on this forum will jump at the chance to say, is an oxymoron), it doesn't have jack-shit for influence compared to the much more sensible Brazil or Argentina, and even if it did there's no way they could or even want to seek actual hostilities with us.

    My guess is that you're getting tons of Rush pumped through those radio speakers. Ignore everything the man says.
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    I would like to point out that no one though that WW 1 would happen, but it did...
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    Actually ya hey did they just liked to ignore it.
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    Doesn't Rush Limbaugh live in Southern Florida?
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    Yup in one of those fancy rich places with a lot of gold courses!
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    Not true. Venezuela donates a lot of oil to other countries (Including the US).

    Also, don't they hunt children in Brazil? And isn't Argentina hostile to the UK?
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    Well, before WW 1 in France there was a famour murder trial which the entire public was ignoring the events in Europe. 3 days after the trial, France was at war...

    Do we ever learn?
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    Also,why is Brazil and Argentina more 'sensible'? Brazil is governed by a centre left party btw.
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    Someone calculated the chances for a WW2 sized conflict, it came in at 5% for the century that we live in now. A WW3 will be inevitable in the future though, if you ask me.
  12. 3man75 Well-Known Member

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    ya i live in "factoria hialeah!" which is spanish for hialeah factories or it usto be and we dont have
    any big houses here there mostly town houses and ppl here live on stamps. we also have an extremely
    anti-left opinion here what with everyone immigrated from a rogue goverment cuba. on top of that ya it
    could be paranoia.
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    Well of course it's just about inevitable. So is reaching Mars though, and so is a nuclear terrorist action against America (Come on, we can't stop them from setting off a dirty bomb in America FOREVER) But even if WW3 happens, there's no guarantee it could wipe out Civilization, much less the Human Race. It could easily just end up destroying some major nations and the world becoming like it was post-WW2.

    Although if we do manage to colonize Mars, or some moon somewhere, there's probably a guarantee that the Human Race will live much, much longer than trapped on this planet with WMDs at our heads.
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    Donates oil? For free? Never heard of this nonsense. But even if they do that doesn't make them a geopolitical superstar. Fact is that they're considerably less important than Argentina or Brazil.

    Chavez is a pariah. He's also the international representative of Venezuela. Nobody takes him seriously and nobody trusts him.
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    You're right, I have never heard of someone just "giving" oil out of the goodness of their hearts.
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    And now you have: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/energy/6237038.html
    Mind you this was just after typing "Venezuela oil donation" into google.

    Is that so? Or maybe It's just that YOU don't take him seriously, or that YOU don't trust him? I understand that you have a deep burning hatred for socialists, but a Reform Socialist? Come on, that's the most mild form of socialist there is!
    And however bad things my be in Venezuela, I guarantee things would be much worse if the Military Junta that tried to overthrow Chavez had succeeded. (Quick reminder that it was the protests of the Venezuelan people that led to Chavez being released from jail and reinstalled as president. They must really hate him.)
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    Oh, this fable again. When you say "donates oil" about a member of OPEC I'm not expecting you to talk about some trinket heating supply donation. That nonsense has already been posted on the forum, and it's just as much of a curio now as it was then. You seriously think that this gives them more international clout? Come on.

    I didn't bother hunting down sources for something I wasn't claiming, especially since I figured you'd post them after my remarks if you actually had them. Had you gone all LeninCat and just continued with rhetoric about the issue I'd have looked for myself.

    Yes, it really is so. The guy's friends (allies) are almost exclusively despots. He lends support to anyone who's an enemy of America, he's called us an evil empire in the past for God's sake.

    I take him seriously but I don't trust him one bit. I'm not alone in this assessment, I assure you.
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    Maybe I doesn't give him much influence in the states, but I'd like to remind you he does the same in a lot of South American counties.

    Also I'm still confused about how an large oil producing nation has less international influence then Argentina, who is hostile to the UK.
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    Again, not a geopolitical issue. He's not getting any new friends, he's stuck with Nicaragua, Cuba, Bolivia (occasionally), and tinpot dictators.

    Qatar is a member of OPEC; are they more geopolitically prominent than Israel?

    Argentina, along with Brazil, is the economic backbone of South America. They don't have a dogmatic foreign policy agenda which undermines their credibility, like Venezuela does. But most importantly they're a developed nation, the strongest (economically and militarily) in South America.
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    Come on Kali! You know politics is all about image.

    Also:
    Excluding the occasional invasion of the Falklands?

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