I typed it already up, but I got a trophy randomly, and I accidently clicked it, but anyways Is this realistic or plain bs? In the Spanish Civil War, the Nationalists lose due to increased international support on the Republican’s side. After the Third Republic of France is conquered and Vichy France created, German amphibious assaults on Spain lead to the conquering of Spain, and additionally the securing of North Africa and the Mediterranean under the Axis, making a British or American landing impossible. Additionally Germany conquers the Middle East despite the absolute risk of jihad. The Battle of Britain remains as is, and Britain remains almost isolated. Hitler also funds Fascists in South America while allying with the Japanese. Fascist governments form in various nations in South America. On December 7th, 1941 Southern American fascist armies, trained by Nazi troops, invade the Panama Canal. Mexico then becomes a bloody front as its neighbors are conquered. At the same time, Japan attacks the Pacific fleet while occupying Hawaii. Wake Island, Guam, Puerto Rico, and other U.S. holdings are taken over quickly as FDR calls for a draft while quickly joining the Allies. California is embargoed by Japanese fleets. Japan decides it can hold pressure, and makes many fronts, decimating the Chinese Red Army and also conquering India decisively, while convincing fascist Afghanistan to join the Axis. Instead of preparing for an Army landing in Algiers, America is forced to prepare for combat in South America. In 1943, however, Admiral Yamamoto leads a coup, deciding Japan is chewing more than it can handle. Thus Japan is engulfed in Civil War, the Imperials fighting the Patriots. Allied forces take advantage of this opportunity immediately. Russia: Stalin’s Great Purge never happens, as Stalin decides to fund nuclear research based off Einstein, who moves to USSR instead of America because it turns out he is communist. Stalin plans on making an intense weapon. The non-aggression pact holds with Germany as the Nazi-occupied Polish front stays quiet. However, since many “enemies of the state” weren’t killed by the NKVD, the 2nd Russian Revolution occurs in 1939. Led by powerful Leninists, Marxists, and Trotskyites, and aided by the common people, angry at the government’s control of agriculture, the opposition takes Leningrad as it capitol. Stalin decides to warn the rebels of his special atomic project, but his threats go unheeded. In June 1944, the world in flames is for a moment stunned as Leningrad is nuked along with hundreds of thousands of people. Germany, seeing radiation sickness among its people, threatens retaliation in July 1944. Stalin wonders what to do with his other bomb while Leningrad burns.
Well, here is my onion: While I guess sound on paper, you are taking in a lot of assumptions, that the Nationalists lose the Spanish Civil War even though they overall had more military support, and international support in the form of ambiguous statements don't cut it. ALSO, amphibious assault of Spain is somewhat illogical considering the shit navy the Germans and Italians had, and the fact the German navy would have to go past a hostile British navy by way of the English Channel. Also, you don't take into account the fact that a German offensive in Spain will get bogged down do to the rocky terrain of the countryside prevents tanks and favors the likely to mobilize Spanish guerillas. It could take 6 months at minimum to annex all of Spain, and that doesn't even take into consideration American and British support. You also create money the Third Reich doesn't have, most of it being committed to its armies and processes of solving the Jewish Question, thus the funds for funding Fascist movements that would take at least 1 year to form in South American governments and Japan. You also don't take into consideration the gung-ho attitude of Hitler when it came to invading Russia, he wanted his Lebensraum in the east, which led to Barbarossa, and you also don't consider the paranoia of Stalin that led to the Great Purge, and that if it didn't happen, somehow another Revolution would occur. As I said before, sound on paper, but taking into consideration the personalities of the leaders of the day and the politics, economies and military, very much unlikely. I suggest Harry Turtledove to you.
Fanfiction, anyways Mexico holds on and gobbles up central America, also there weren't that many fascists in south America, but you know everything about Latin America right?
Yeah I don't quite understand how Einstein going to the USSR (which is ridiculous, since he hated communism) prevents the purges from happening. At all. They're completely unrelated. The rest just sounds like you played a game of Hearts of Iron and wrote it all down afterwards. Using cheats, I might add.
USSR could not have had made a-bomb as it had no uranium. Unless some one would trade with it, they could not have had made it.
I was about to say yes until you got to this. Ugh. Einstein did not play a big part in the Manhattan project. The biggest role he played was writing a letter to FDR. He only approved of it because he thought the Germans were almost done creating an atomic bomb. Other than that, he dissaproved of the atomic bomb. He was mostly a pacifist.
Too many what ifs here. Not plausible. Some could have happened, but Einstein going to the USSR just doesn't make sense. Neither do the Nazis training troops in Latin America make sense. You think Hitler is going to care about that when he's fighting a war in Europe, Asia, and Africa?
The implausability of the scenario I wrote reminds me of a lady in my school who told a class that five million people died in the Civil War and that Alaska was extemely important to the Union.
I don't know, Let's plug the numbers into Our high tech war simulator and see how it works. * Installs Hearts of iron *
Einstein didn't hate communism. He was pretty extremely socialist himself. However, he would have never moved to the USSR, because he simply hated the violence. He was pretty heavily socialist, but a heavier pacifist.
Hmmm. I was misinformed. Still, Stalin naturally wouldn't have stopped the purges because of him. In fact, knowing dear old Koba, he probably would've suspected Einstein of being a Nazi agent and had him shot or something.
So were those doctors he had sent to the gulag in the 50s. There wasn't really much rhyme or reason to who got the boot or the bullet in his time.
this is what people on the alternate history board call Alien Space Bats or ASB the IJA was unable to defeat the Chinese in OTL your also forgetting the Kuomintang which provided the majority of Resistance. the Japanese don't have the range to go around south America because if they it would defeat the purpose of The war with the USA. they can't use the canal because their ships were to big to fit The Indian army were able to field 2.6 million soldiers with volunteers alone this little under HALF of the IJA the UK is not going to lose India he is not going to rebel he hated pearl harbor still didn't cause civil war. the vast majority of the great purge was simply being forced out of the party so no Russian civil war
